AresX8 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yes, it's given to all Heroes in the Slaughterhost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosUndivided Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Brazen Rune still works after you use the once per battle dispel/unbind now... Sweet. Ah its not auto unbind/dispel tho. Edited March 23, 2019 by ChaosUndivided 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) ok guys, i need help for finishing a list i'm trying to make it's 1 bloodsecrator, 2 slaughterpriest, 1exalted deathbringer, 2x10 bloodwarriors, 3x5 skullreapers, 10 bloodreavers,5 wrathmongers, 1 SLAUGHTERBORN, axe and skulls judgments which is 1850 pts i don't know how to finish the list i'm hesitating with 1) 5 wrathmongers 2) a third slaughterpriest + the idol 3) aspiring deathbringer + 10 more reavers Edited March 23, 2019 by ledha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impa Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ledha said: ok guys, i need help for finishing a list i'm trying to make it's 1 bloodsecrator, 2 slaughterpriest, 1exalted deathbringer, 2x10 bloodwarriors, 3x5 skullreapers, 10 bloodreavers,5 wrathmongers, 1 SLAUGHTERBORN, axe and skulls judgments which is 1850 pts i don't know how to finish the list i'm hesitating with 1) 5 wrathmongers 2) a third slaughterpriest + the idol 3) aspiring deathbringer + 10 more reavers Bloodstoker should probably be in there to re roll wounds. And his charge and run bonus when needed. Edited March 23, 2019 by Impa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ledha said: ok guys, i need help for finishing a list i'm trying to make it's 1 bloodsecrator, 2 slaughterpriest, 1exalted deathbringer, 2x10 bloodwarriors, 3x5 skullreapers, 10 bloodreavers,5 wrathmongers, 1 SLAUGHTERBORN, axe and skulls judgments which is 1850 pts i don't know how to finish the list i'm hesitating with 1) 5 wrathmongers 2) a third slaughterpriest + the idol 3) aspiring deathbringer + 10 more reavers From the list I'd say wrathmongers, they're a killer unit and having a pair would definitely help if you're facing a lot of ranged or magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just played a 1000 point game and I have to say Bloodmaster and skullcannons with Reapers of Vengence is nasty. Move a block of wrathmonger around with them and they are shooting 4 times, charging, the bloodmaster fights with the artefact and then lets the cannons fight, kill a model and shoot 4x again. With buffs I had 2x cannons hittingon 2s reroll 1s, wounding on 3s reroll ones against heros and monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phizzco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Enjoy it till it gets errata'd. Basically op like shootcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivener Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Darksteve said: Just played a 1000 point game and I have to say Bloodmaster and skullcannons with Reapers of Vengence is nasty. Move a block of wrathmonger around with them and they are shooting 4 times, charging, the bloodmaster fights with the artefact and then lets the cannons fight, kill a model and shoot 4x again. With buffs I had 2x cannons hittingon 2s reroll 1s, wounding on 3s reroll ones against heros and monsters How did you get 4 shots per skullcannon before Combat? I can see 2 shots each with the Wrathmongers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, phizzco said: Enjoy it till it gets errata'd. Basically op like shootcast yeah, the dreaded shootcast who are destroying everyone on the international tournament scene... /s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, phizzco said: Enjoy it till it gets errata'd. Basically op like shootcast "OP" lol ok. It makes skullcannons playable. If it really gets errataed then I guess its back to warming the bench for them. 25 minutes ago, Rivener said: How did you get 4 shots per skullcannon before Combat? I can see 2 shots each with the Wrathmongers. Sorry if it wasnt clear 4 shots for the unit of 2x skullcannons, so 2 shots per cannon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 hours ago, MOMUS said: Skullreapers +10 Trial of skulls more consistent but weaker overall, easier to remember, makes unit weaker against leaders Daemon forged only on 6, so no stacking buffs, no longer hurts unit on a 1 Murderous makes unit immune to BS great buff considering the banner, only on 5+ now but always D3 Also get reroll all hits against units of 5+ and +1 attack each Wrathmongers -40 Exactly the same, crimson haze is now 8" but units wholly within, blood fury is just mortal wounds similar to reapers Skull crushers +40 Extra attack, extra 1 bravery from banner, no longer have shield ability, charge ability is done model by model Also have +1 to their save Reavers Same, devotion is 16 but wholly, Warriors Same improved gore fist, goes off on saves of 6 Stoker Now reroll all wounds not just 1s, range reduced to 8 and wholly within only effects mortals now Aspiring deathbringer Cowards bane now range 3, slaughter is 12 wholly Priest Blood bind is now move the enemy unit the prayer roll Flesh - same Sacrifice - wholly within 8 Resanguination - same Fury - same Hex- auto dispel endless spell within 16 (not wholly) probs typo Jugger Lord +20 Shield now 5+ Charge now 2+ Axe same Stampede is now only units that charged, 16, wholly and reroll wound rolls of 1 Skarr +40 Attacks diff but similar Auto raises but end of movement on 8+ on 2D6, command ability to buff Wrathmongers to pile in when slain Bloodsecrator No immunity to BS Loathsome is now 16 Rage is 16, wholly Can now move an use buffs MLoK +20 Same Gorelord is now 16, wholly but any number of units Letters -10/-20 Blood banner is now reroll charges Gore icon is same Mortal wounds only on 6 but is now in addition to normal damage Murderous Tide is same Hounds Now have roar ranged attack on champ Locus of abjuration removed Karanak +50 6 attacks on maw Gains re roll charges Unbind same Summon hounds same I added some extra bits you missed. (I'm sure I missed some myself) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosUndivided Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 So the Hex Skulls reduce casting roll by 2 does that mean your unbind attemp is against the modified cast or is it vs hard dice roll? I'm kinda jerked that there is only 1 unit that has a bonus to unbind in am army thats suppose to be so anti magic. There is just so many bonuses to casting rolls out there it makes unbinding a futile effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman84 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I really like the look of Valkia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Hey, do the Mortal Slaughterhosts only require Khorne Mortal generals or do they specify Bloodbound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Roark said: Hey, do the Mortal Slaughterhosts only require Khorne Mortal generals or do they specify Bloodbound? As far as I can tell none of the hosts have any requirements for mortal or daemon. The abilities affect mortals or daemons depending on the rules, but generals can be whatever. Same with the the artifacts, you could give an insensate bloodthirster the +2 attack artifact from skullfiend if you wanted to. Edited March 24, 2019 by Grimrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Grimrock said: As far as I can tell none of the hosts have any requirements for mortal or daemon. The abilities affect mortals or daemons depending on the rules, but generals can be whatever. Same with the the artifacts, you could give an insensate bloodthirster the +2 attack artifact from skullfiend if you wanted to. Haha, awesome. I need to be able to make a Chaos Lord on Manticore my Goretide general. On the charge, with Dimensional Blade: Daemon blade 4 3 3 -3 dmg1d3+1 Lance 3 3 3 -1 dmg4 (on the charge) Jaws 5 4 2 -2 dmg2 Tail d6 4 4 0 dmg2 And all those weapon profiles can be buffed out the wazoo with Mongers, Secrators and Deathbringers. Not a bad combat package for 250pts. He can be my Mortal Thirster. ;-) (Imagine if, around GHB time, they fix his Mark ability to be a true 6" pile-in too. That would be insane.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Does anyone know the order in which the Axe of Khorne deals it’s damage? In a game today someone argued that it deals the D6 damage upon its arrival from summoning and then an additional D3 on any units it passes over. The wording always seems to favor movement though, so I thought you summoned it, moved it and then where it rested it did the D6 within 3”. Basically is the D6 front loaded or back loaded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfrik the Wanderer Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Not sure if it was highlighted, but the Bloodwarriors' leader no longer adds 1 to the attack characteristic of any weapon other than Goreaxe(s) which devalues Goreglaive slightly. Still useful, but no more extra attack from being the leader. Also thought it interesting to point out that Judgement rolls are not Prayer rolls, and say any "Khorne Priest" can attempt tp cast them. A Chaps Warshrine dedicated to Khorne has both the "Khorne" and "Priest" keywords, and can therefore roll a Judegement to bring it on the field. The Skull Alter also affects this, by allowing the Chaos Warshrine to reroll failed Prayers and Judgement rolls for "Khorne" "Priests". This prayer can also be the prayer the warscroll prayer to reroll failed hit rolls that goes off on a 3+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Does the book or Slaughterpriest Warscroll identify in any meaningful way what the order of operates are regarding their capabilities? Can they Pray, Bless and Judge all in 1 go? Do they either choose to pray or judge but they can still bless? Which combination of things are they able to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ravinsild said: Does the book or Slaughterpriest Warscroll identify in any meaningful way what the order of operates are regarding their capabilities? Can they Pray, Bless and Judge all in 1 go? Do they either choose to pray or judge but they can still bless? Which combination of things are they able to do? None of the abilities reference replacement of each other and there are no limitations on the slaughterpriests in terms of thier casting attempts, so you can do 1 prayer, 1 blood blessing, 1 judgement, and attempt to unbind an endless spell all in the same hero phase with the same priest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneySteve Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 So my list for a friendly 1.5k game on Tuesday is as follows Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster 320 Skulltaker 120 Slaughterpriestx2 200 Bloodsecrator 140 30xBloodletters 300 10xBloodletters 110 5xFlesh Hounds 100 5xWrathmongers 140 Wrath Axe judgement 60 Altar of Skulls Total 1470 The idea being that Skulltaker and the regiment of Bloodletters will move up in formation with Wrathmongers behind and Bloodsecrator behind them, a potential 91 attacks hitting on 3s wounding on 3s and re rolling 1s 1 of the Slaughter priests will hang back at the altar praying for blood sacrifice on the unit of 10 bloodletters. Hopefully roll a few 1s in battleshock for that unit and keep them supplying blood tithe. The other Slaughterpriest will move up with the judgement, and the WoK plus Flesh hounds will charge up the board. Any thoughts or anything you would do differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Looking like after a bit of theory work now, Juggernauts may not actually be as viable as we first thought then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOMUS Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Ravinsild said: Thanks for the big breakdown and analysis. Is everything really worse though? Any thoughts on the Battalions or Slaughterhosts at all? In a word yes, lol. My main gripe is that the secrator which was the main crux/crutch of the army has massively changed but still stayed the same points and everyone's bravery and points stayed the same? Surely such a massive change would have many similar knock on effects? I get why it was done, just seems now rather than castle around the banner everyone will castle around the new free terrain bandwagon. This combined with some keyword restrictions on everything and the range 8 fluffy nonsense range on loads of abilities is frustrating. I was hoping on some flexibility on summoning and tithe but it's actually been locked down even more inflexible. Which is a shame cuz I enjoyed the tactical aspect this opened up for khorne when 2.0 dropped. Had a game against a top UK khorne player the other day and had some talk on lists, will defo need to start from scratch! Slaughterhosts have no minimum requirements which is good, but cmd traits and artefacts are mandatory Goretide Reroll wound roll of 1 when wholly within 12 of objective. Defo useful with the added focus on objectives in AoS 2, stacks well with a lot of units Command ability, 1 unit, auto run 6 and can charge in same turn, wholly within 16, warriors/reavers only Annoying restriction same as skullfiend, still good Cmd trait, add 1 damage to generals weapons Artefact, model ignores save modifiers Skullfiend Reroll hits of 1 when wholly within 12 of enemy hero, (mortal only) really like this sniping heroes but doesn't stack with the cmd ability and the two mainstain mortal units already have this ability so actually pretty lame Cmd ability, reroll hit and wounds of khorgorath wholly within 10, interesting for sure thought about a 5 khor list within skulltake battalion for super punch, might be a gimick tho Cmd trait, 2 tithe points when general slays heroes Artefact, add two attacks to a weapon I think goretide wins out which is a shame cuz I liked the idea of the hero snipe and my army is painted in skullfiend colours 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefury Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Draakur said: Looking like after a bit of theory work now, Juggernauts may not actually be as viable as we first thought then? They're pretty much sitting ducks, when in combat. After they dished out their MWs, they'll just sit there. Maybe that's what they're supposed to do. In general, I have to admit, that the book lets me down at a lot of points.Skullreapers lost their snowbally buffing of themselves. They're still good now, but kind of a little expensive for 180 points imo. Wrathmongers totally lost their punch, imo. It used to be so scary for the enemies, when they had to face them. Now they became a support unit for 140 points. That might be ok, but for me it's a let down, to be honest. Most of the battalions are absolutely mediocre, or even useless. Same with the artefacts and traits. Did anyone also notice, that there are sooooooo far many possibilities to reroll hit rolls? Over and over again, with very differnt aretacts and traits. Seems a little lazy from GW's side there. Some units got good, so as Skarr ( finally ) and Skarbrand ( he really had to get something, tbh ). The entire playstyle of Khorne did shift to be a pretty defensive army now. It is like "Let them come, then punch them". The units themselves hit not that hard anymore ( what they also didn't in the previous book ). It comes down to the judgements and a little number of unit combos. I am a little disappointed, but we'll see what can be done with the book. I mean, what Khorne had to do, are the Beasts of Chaos now doing pretty much, so they already became my 2nd army 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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