kenshin620 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Bjornas said: Can we expect to see new warscrolls for them, you think? Considering it's a "new" release? Or is the general consensus that they are fine as they are? They're fast, decently punchy for their points, Battleline, and can dispel magic. They seem great already! Slaanesh Fiends on the other hand...(well technically slaanesh still waiting for their proper book anyways) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Notice that the flesh hounds are no longer on 50mm round anymore... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I can see me buying many boxes of Wrath and Rapture! god bless them, they've even kept the old Realm of Chaos typeface 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Same here. I've just started a 1000 point for doubles that requires at least 20 flesh hounds so this is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Also I think the video might be showing a plastic Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut? They seemed oddly focused on showing a juggernaut. I suppose maybe it's because I'm not used to seeing Bloodcrushers painted in different colors. They did mention other new models. Edited November 2, 2018 by kenshin620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, BrocknerTheBear said: Notice that the flesh hounds are no longer on 50mm round anymore... Oh man... @Killax is gonna be cranky about this one. I think he's rebased twice... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernalslayer Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Bjornas said: Can we expect to see new warscrolls for them, you think? Considering it's a "new" release? Or is the general consensus that they are fine as they are? The one standing on th rock looks a lot like it could be a unit leader which the current warscroll doesn't have. Curious to see if they change them as well. Bummed that they are changing the bases again, i have mine on 50mm and they are metal, i won't only have to rebase them, but repaint the lower halves as well since paint will chip away during rebasing and my backlog is tremendous already as it is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Infernalslayer said: The one standing on th rock looks a lot like it could be a unit leader which the current warscroll doesn't have. Curious to see if they change them as well. Well not sure about unit leaders but another piece of art has Karanak front and center, maybe they're also making a plastic version of him? Notice how different his Frills are from his original model (the new art has his frills on his side heads being UNDER the head rather than over) Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith01 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I've wanted plastic Flesh Hounds since I started playing AoS with the original Starter set!!! So happy to finally be getting them. The new 3 headed one looks amazing in that art, hope he is in the box! I was hoping for new Bloodletter sculpts too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 7 hours ago, kenshin620 said: New fleshhounds for the upcoming Chaos VS box Chaos vs what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ravinsild said: Chaos vs what? Khorne vs. Slasnesh Box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will pollock Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Hey all, just a quick question, if I use the WoK bloodthirsters command ability on a unit whipped by the bloodstoker, do they get +3 do both run and charge or one of the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hystarion Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I find it funny that those flesh hounds seem to be released on oval bases, but they officialized 50mm round bases for them like 2 months ago. I'm glad I didn't base mine on 50 yet, but some people will be pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 @will pollock you can run and charge as per the command ability but you have to choose to add 3" to the run OR charge for the bloodstoker ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrocknerTheBear said: @will pollock you can run and charge as per the command ability but you have to choose to add 3" to the run OR charge for the bloodstoker ability @will pollock Whipped to Fury says you add 3" to all run or charge rolls, not that you need to choose one or the other. I've been playing it this way for years as has every Khorne player I know. To me, it seems to be the only reason the WoK Thirster + Letterbomb combo allows for Turn 1 charges. I'm feeling a slight creeping dread right now... but also pretty confident about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will pollock Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 @BrocknerTheBear @Roark thanks guys, thats what i thought but just wanted to make sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 @Roark pretty sure you have to choose which will receive the bonus before you roll for either. Would be great if you could wait and see if you get a solid run roll then decide after but I don't think you can. That or I'm about to be really happy to be proven wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysonic1 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Designers' Commentary : https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/age_of_sigmar_blades_of_khorne_designers_commentary_en-1.pdf Yes you add to run and charge. Be sure to become familiar with all the Q&A here and the FAQ! https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/age_of_sigmar_blades_of_khorne_errata_en-1.pdf Edited November 3, 2018 by andysonic1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Well I think I will still play it as either or. All I can see from this is that you can use the ability to add to both but that you can't use it to stack the same ability twice ie: one to increase run and one to increase charge but not two to add both to charge. This may be contrary to current interpretation but I just can't see the word "or" implying anything other then "not both" This is purely personal opinion and lines up with how relaxed and uncompetitive I play and in no way implies anyone else is wrong. To coin a warhammer tv phrase "other interpretations are available" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazimer Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Except the wording is very clear. "All run or charge". All. If it were to just say "Run or charge" that'd be reasonable, but by adding 'All' to the text, it is clearly saying you can take all the options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I would see the emphasis being on the wrong part. "All" would mean any such action. "Or" means one or the other. But you could charge multiple times before your next hero phase (blood tithe table effects or command traits etc) so the effect would count towards these results as well as one made in the charge phase itself. However. That being said, it's still run "or" charge. Other effects specify run "and" charge. It's certainly one for the rules guys to qualify in the next faq because it has a huge effect one way or the other with a gain or loss of 3" in the balance. Still, this is just a clearing up of why I see it this way and nothing more. As such, if happily play others using the other interpretation and I would still use my own and harbour no ill will. I wonder how some of the playtesters or TO's would rule it at a tournament though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silchas_Ruin Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Never run into anyone who didn't do both. You do WoK, Bloodstoker and run+charge Bloodletters, 1 of the really nasty combos Khorne has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 hours ago, will pollock said: @BrocknerTheBear @Roark thanks guys, thats what i thought but just wanted to make sure Hmm, I'm confused. Brockner and I had completely differing views mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somanlius Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 FAQ from July says you can use Whipped to Fury for both. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will pollock Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Roark said: Hmm, I'm confused. Brockner and I had completely differing views mate. oops sorry, was quite tired. thanks all the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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