Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The good news is now Skyfires are 200 points, and the shaman is 160. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I don't think that's enough haha. Just reduces the amount that are in a list. Skyfires are still horrendously efficient Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Vanguard justicar and a stardrake list feels really appealing to me now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Like : LCoD Lord Castellant Vanguard wing (with 30 liberators) 5 Judicators. I am thinking about it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Like : LCoD Lord Castellant Vanguard wing (with 30 liberators) 5 Judicators. I am thinking about it too [emoji4]No no , vanguard justicar (with hurricane crossbows). We will be needing some horde blending this edition. I'm really tempted by vanguard wing too though ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 This list was about the stardrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think we'll probably see a few more stardrakes now. I'd like to give the Celestant prime a go aswell now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Another thing to notice, is that Skyborn slayers and the warrior brotherhood are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Another thing to notice, is that Skyborn slayers and the warrior brotherhood are back.Some tournies ban skyborne slayers though right ? Would be fun to play though!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yeah I was not expecting them to disappear but good to see they're still around. I don't know if the Prime dropped enough to be worthwhile still. Still super expensive for a model that generally dies the turn it drops in. Stardrake is maybe better now. 40 point drop is decent but still over 500 points. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Dunno if it is banned, but these bataillons had disapeared in the battle tome. Good to see they are back, even if the Azyros changes make the brotherhood less attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinncinnatus Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think given the changes the Knight Azyros the Hammerstike and Vanguard wing are stronger choices than the Warrior Brotherhood and Skyborne Slayers. Getting inside of 9" is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think given the changes the Knight Azyros the Hammerstike and Vanguard wing are stronger choices than the Warrior Brotherhood and Skyborne Slayers. Getting inside of 9" is huge.Slayers gets you within 5" which isn't to bad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone2040 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Holy ******, a whole page just for Stormcast battalions. Yeah, 60 point Prosecutors with Javs was definitely incorrect. Maybe Bob thought they were 120 (Believe he basically was giving pluses or minuses) but not the first time he was incorrect there (Again, by accident I think). Knew they were gonna go up to 100 since they definitely perform well enough in comparison to the twin hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The World Tree Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So did the Drakesworn Templar drop in points along with the Lord Celestant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So did the Drakesworn Templar drop in points along with the Lord Celestant?Yes to 440Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think given the changes the Knight Azyros the Hammerstike and Vanguard wing are stronger choices than the Warrior Brotherhood and Skyborne Slayers. Getting inside of 9" is huge.Vanguard only gets in Liberators, which almost means nothing against many armies. Skyborne and Hammerstrike are the ones to do if you want to strike close and fast. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Requizen said: Vanguard only gets in Liberators, which almost means nothing against many armies. Skyborne and Hammerstrike are the ones to do if you want to strike close and fast. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk A 30 Liberators Skybord properly buffed can be amazing. 2 ways to play it : Defensive with a LCoSD who will give them +1 to armore save if they don't charge (and they never do), and a castellant who give another +1 to armor. Offensive with 2 Celestants, giving +2 to hit, which gives the 2 to wound rolls for any 4+ to hit. A 30 liberator unit is very huge, I think it can go sniping heros in the back with some of its 6 Grandhammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwrightni Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Any update on paladors? Can we get a scanned page of sce ubits and their points? Sent from my G8141 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burf Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Cinncinnatus said: I think given the changes the Knight Azyros the Hammerstike and Vanguard wing are stronger choices than the Warrior Brotherhood and Skyborne Slayers. Getting inside of 9" is huge. I think after the changes in GHB 2017, taking any battalion is largely pointless. Only hammerstrike and aetherstrike were really viable before and while they're still good...ish, they're just too expensive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burf Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Auroch said: A 30 Liberators Skybord properly buffed can be amazing. 2 ways to play it : Defensive with a LCoSD who will give them +1 to armore save if they don't charge (and they never do), and a castellant who give another +1 to armor. Offensive with 2 Celestants, giving +2 to hit, which gives the 2 to wound rolls for any 4+ to hit. A 30 liberator unit is very huge, I think it can go sniping heros in the back with some of its 6 Grandhammers. Option 1 would be largely wasteful. You're spending 800+ points to do what death can do with skeletons for 120+ decent terrain. Option 2 just straight up won't work, a 30 brick of liberators is getting maybe 12 models into any single combat and spending 2 celestants (and your command trait) to buff liberators is...unpleasant . You're looking at what? 1000pts for an objectively worse hammerstrike? The liberator discount isn't enough to be worth bothering with, not with the logistical problems involved in using a brick of 30 40mm bases with only 6 weapons that hit at 2"+, tying up a third or even half your points in what is still an easily ignorable unit, and it having a depressingly poor damage output even with the several hundred points of buffs it need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Talking about vanguard wing. Hard to avoid a unit able to TP on the table every turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think after the changes in GHB 2017, taking any battalion is largely pointless. Only hammerstrike and aetherstrike were really viable before and while they're still good...ish, they're just too expensive now. My Aetherstrike is the same save only having to drop one Hero. It's still really strong. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEmrys Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 My Aetherstrike is the same save only having to drop one Hero. It's still really strong. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using TapatalkDo you mind sharing your list? Thanks! Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think after the changes in GHB 2017, taking any battalion is largely pointless. Only hammerstrike and aetherstrike were really viable before and while they're still good...ish, they're just too expensive now. Have to disagree here, can just drop a hero and a few of the viable battalions should still see use. Like Requizen has said, losing a relictor to keep hero phase shooting and counter shooting when a unit dies is easily done. However, stormcast shoot heavy lists are gunna find objectives scenarios even more difficult. Gunna stock up on hurricane crossbows and decimators/protectors. I'd love to see paladins as battleline if....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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