Braneric Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Well given how potentially powerful Stormcast shooting now looks 100 points for the Azyros seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Also, the page with battalions seems to be blurry on every screenshot, but I don't thnk Stormhost battalions are in it. And there are 3 SCE exclusive Endless Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, amysrevenge said: Right, similar example, Celestant-Prime with 2 wounds left, gets hit by a Thundertusk for 6. What happens with Cycle of the Storm? (Haha that's what I get for starting a post 20 minutes ago then hitting send just now. Posts in between lol) Haha, been there. I suspect it works like my example and @Turragor's corroboration, in which case it is underwhelming but decent. If it works as @Requizen posted it would be amazing. It is definitely something to ask the FAQ team about (which is not something I say frequently, as I think many if the FAQs are redundant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielFM Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 52 minutes ago, Sagittarii Orientalis said: Palladors, vanguard hunters, hurricane crossbow vanguard raptor became 20pts cheaper. Aetherwings became 10pts cheaper. That's great news! Well deserved point drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 They reduced the Heraldor. They better have changed his Warscroll or that will be a biiiig mistake imo. He's already so good and will be even better at 100 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, kuroyume said: I bring you points! Between Discord and the SCE FB group we've been piecing together stuff from blurry screenshots. Here's the new/changed stuff we've been able to put together: Palladors - 200 Hunters - 120 Raptors with HC - 140 Aetherwings - 50 Relictor 100 Azyros 100 Sequitors 5/120 Castigators 3/80 Heraldor 100 Concussors 260 Vexillor 120 Evocators 5/200 Drakesworn Templar 460 Ballista 100 Incantor 140 Lord Arcanum on Gryph-Charger: 240 Starter is ~980 points, but with three under strength units. Does celestant on stardrake stay at 560 or got a reduce too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Erdemo86 said: Does celestant on stardrake stay at 560 or got a reduce too? No change to LCoSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielFM Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, kuroyume said: No change to LCoSD Sad panda. I think I will go back to the non-unkillable, affordable Drakesworn Templar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Oh ok. So i think that the drakesworm > celestant now. 100 points diffrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUFNSTUF Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Have fulminators stayed the same price or gone up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, PUFNSTUF said: Have fulminators stayed the same price or gone up a bit? Can't say anything yet, haven't found a screenshot that shows their number clearly. Same with the rest of Dracothian Guard and Paladins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 If thats true, my list will be: lord arcanum lord castellant frostheart phoenix Battle wizard lord Celestant or a endless spell 2x 5 Judis 1x 10 Sequitors 1x 5 evocators 2x 2 Fulminators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophe Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 hum... do you think they will reduce/change the points costs of shadespire warband ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 more news: Hammmerstrike Force down 100 points to 120! Time to make it rain Paladins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyboy Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, amysrevenge said: Right, similar example, Celestant-Prime with 2 wounds left, gets hit by a Thundertusk for 6. What happens with Cycle of the Storm? (Haha that's what I get for starting a post 20 minutes ago then hitting send just now. Posts in between lol) If its anything like the Seraphon Artifact Incandescent Recrtices, all the wounds are allocated, the first time the model goes to zero wounds (dont know anywhere where it specifies that it can't go to negative wounds but lets assume you cant), roll dice, on 3+ he is not removed and instead heals D3 wounds( so 0+D3 wounds remaining) So for cycle of the storm it refers to a slain model, instead of being removed it heals one wound. To me that means that all wounds are allocated, model wound total drops to a minium of zero. If a models wound total reaches zero it is slain. instead of being slain it heals a wound. Model remains on the table with 1 wound remaining. Again this is just my interpretation and in this instance it means that you can have units with multiple wounded models. This isn't necessarily a problem as any further wounds done to the unit will remove the wounded models first as per the normal rules. If this turns out to be the way its played then its a really great ability, if wounds carry over then its not so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, kuroyume said: more news: Hammmerstrike Force down 100 points to 120! Time to make it rain Paladins! Lmao back to the original price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Requizen said: They reduced the Heraldor. They better have changed his Warscroll or that will be a biiiig mistake imo. He's already so good and will be even better at 100 points. He's even better than before now that you can use a CA to change a run roll to 6. Pair that with the cogs endless spell and you could have Fulminators only needing to roll a 4+ on a turn 1 charge, or a stardrake auto-succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freejack02 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, kuroyume said: more news: Hammmerstrike Force down 100 points to 120! Time to make it rain Paladins! Quite pleased about this! Let's hope they get a decent points reduction and aren't completely outshined by the newer units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Freejack02 said: Quite pleased about this! Let's hope they get a decent points reduction and aren't completely outshined by the newer units. The leak I saw was blurry but it looked like Decimators remained the same price, so I'd expect the other paladins did as well. Can't say for certain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Any news on Tempestors ? Looks like all the units in my army went down in points Oh, except the Relictor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Requizen said: I would assume it's more for single models remaining/Heroes. You allocate all wounds, they overkill the Hero, then you "rez it" after wounds have been allocated. Or at least, that's how I'm assuming it works, otherwise it's only useful if you kill it exactly. Actually yes, it doesn't talk about wound allocation (which is what I was thinking) it's just 'when slain'. So wound allocation has stopped. The model is "overkilled" if there were more wounds than they had left. Then they are back with 1 wound. It is ACE imo. Auto include model for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Braneric said: Well given how potentially powerful Stormcast shooting now looks 100 points for the Azyros seems reasonable. Given command abilities (generic) trigger within 6" of a hero, Azyros is best and cheapest mobile hero to fulfill that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmar is scottish Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 So guys for the sake of a noob, with the supposed points leaks what in the new box is good,what is bad and what would you replace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, sigmar is scottish said: So guys for the sake of a noob, with the supposed points leaks what in the new box is good,what is bad and what would you replace? Well unless Libs get a new warscroll, they can be replaced by the new sequitors. Paladins will be replaced by the Evocators. Judicators can be replaced by Balista and celestant on dragoth / stardrake can be replaced by a lord arcunum (on mount). (might spelled some of the new names wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmar is scottish Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Holy ******. So apart from the archer guys (and unless there is a point redaction for old stormcasts) the new sacrosanct stuff has just made a lot of stromcasts obsolete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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