Furuzzolo Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Waaaaait a second. 1 every 4 units may be an ally unit. So allies are no more tied to the points cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Furuzzolo said: Waaaaait a second. 1 every 4 units may be an ally unit. So allies are no more tied to the points cost? Open Play doesn't have points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeron Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Infeston said: Jeah you are right, sorry. The german version is only a little bit more precise, because it says "if you roll a tie in the first battleround". I really hope that it is true that there is a rolloff in the first battleround and they don't change it back to the old way if they have to clear things up. The English rules also say to roll off Every battle round. Just who breaks ties is different if it’s the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Good point, so only a 25% point change instead of a 20%, for matched? Probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Furuzzolo said: Waaaaait a second. 1 every 4 units may be an ally unit. So allies are no more tied to the points cost? I'm guessing this is so open and narrative play can officially have allies. I wouldn't be surprised if the matched play points add something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 If I recall, the policy around here was not to post leaked images of books, so I won't post it, but the new Nighthaunt points and death allies has been leaked. Starting with the allies thing, Nighthaunt is now and ally to for all the Legions(and still Soulblight) along side Flesh Eater Courts. So that's probably the true meaning of GW saying you can play your new Nighthaunt stuff in with you Legions of Nagash stuff instead of the new stuff working with in the legions. On to points. Chainrasp horde is 80 points and generic battleline(but probably only good for GA death and not Legions as noted above). Black Coach is up to 280 and a Behemoth now. New warscroll is probably a given. Not going to list all the points, but nothing else changed for points. Hexwraith and Spririthost are still conditional battleline along side the new grimghast reapers. The odd(technically even, which is odd for AoS) unit counts of four in the starter are the real matched play sizes, so 4 grimghast reapers and 4 myrmourn banshees. Lots of batallions, but no too expensive. Span from 80-150 points. 3 Endless spells costing 40. 40, and 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukes4life Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 so the units sizes for nighthaunt are matched play and those for stormcast are all uneven? wtf is this ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamister1 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, bsharitt said: If I recall, the policy around here was not to post leaked images of books, so I won't post it, but the new Nighthaunt points and death allies has been leaked. Starting with the allies thing, Nighthaunt is now and ally to for all the Legions(and still Soulblight) along side Flesh Eater Courts. So that's probably the true meaning of GW saying you can play your new Nighthaunt stuff in with you Legions of Nagash stuff instead of the new stuff working with in the legions. On to points. Chainrasp horde is 80 points and generic battleline(but probably only good for GA death and not Legions as noted above). Black Coach is up to 280 and a Behemoth now. New warscroll is probably a given. Not going to list all the points, but nothing else changed for points. Hexwraith and Spririthost are still conditional battleline along side the new grimghast reapers. The odd(technically even, which is odd for AoS) unit counts of four in the starter are the real matched play sizes, so 4 grimghast reapers and 4 myrmourn banshees. Lots of batallions, but no too expensive. Span from 80-150 points. 3 Endless spells costing 40. 40, and 60. That's odd as the book in the starter set shows the chainrasp as being 10 for 100 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 LON was leaked, too. All their battalions cost a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infeston Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I have another question about this rule: "In order to use any command ability you must spend 1 command point. You start the battle with 1 command point for each warscroll battalion you have in your army. In addition, you receive 1 command point at the start of each of your hero phases. You can use the same command ability several times in the same phase as long as you have enough command points to do so" Does "each of your hero phases" mean "you" as one single player or you as both players? Does the book talk to me and my enemy or only to me? ? For me it reads that I get a command point in my hero phase and a command point in the enemy hero phase. Is this right? Maybe I am also gettings things wrong because english is not my first language. Or does it mean I only get a command point in my own hero phase? Maybe it was already cleared up, but I really have to ask. Can somebody answer me this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jamister1 said: That's odd as the book in the starter set shows the chainrasp as being 10 for 100 points 80/280 in the image I saw, which I think is the new GHB. It wouldn't be the first time GW has bad points/warscrolls in the starter set. I think they had the same issue with Dark Imperium and some units have the wrong power levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukes4life Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Where are these leaks? anything on stormcast? If all LoN are matched play units and all Stormcast are not I'd so pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Infeston said: I have another question about this rule: "In order to use any command ability you must spend 1 command point. You start the battle with 1 command point for each warscroll battalion you have in your army. In addition, you receive 1 command point at the start of each of your hero phases. You can use the same command ability several times in the same phase as long as you have enough command points to do so" Does "each of your hero phases" mean "you" as one single player or you as both players? Does the book talk to me and my enemy or only to me? ? For me it reads that I get a command point in my hero phase and a command point in the enemy hero phase. Is this right? Maybe I am also gettings things wrong because english is not my first language. Or does it mean I only get a command point in my own hero phase? Your hero phase is your individual hero phase. There are rules that go off in every hero phase, and those are worded as "any hero phase". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmir Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, PJetski said: LON was leaked, too. All their battalions cost a lot more. Except for first cohort (who oddly enough have an aster-ix indicating a points change... Even though it's the same number). The rest was went up between 30 to 60 points. Even the ones that I hardly considered good (like nightfall pack/deathmarch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Infeston said: I have another question about this rule: "In order to use any command ability you must spend 1 command point. You start the battle with 1 command point for each warscroll battalion you have in your army. In addition, you receive 1 command point at the start of each of your hero phases. You can use the same command ability several times in the same phase as long as you have enough command points to do so" Does "each of your hero phases" mean "you" as one single player or you as both players? Does the book talk to me and my enemy or only to me? ? For me it reads that I get a command point in my hero phase and a command point in the enemy hero phase. Is this right? Maybe I am also gettings things wrong because english is not my first language. Or does it mean I only get a command point in my own hero phase? Maybe it was already cleared up, but I really have to ask. Can somebody answer me this? It refers to you as the player rather than you and your opponent. So over the course of a 5 round game, you'll receive just 5 command points ps I'm sure your English is better than my German! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentdeathz Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, nukes4life said: Where are these leaks? anything on stormcast? If all LoN are matched play units and all Stormcast are not I'd so pissed Not sure where the poster looks, but you might find something on the AoS subreddit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, bsharitt said: Starting with the allies thing, Nighthaunt is now and ally to for all the Legions(and still Soulblight) along side Flesh Eater Courts. So that's probably the true meaning of GW saying you can play your new Nighthaunt stuff in with you Legions of Nagash stuff instead of the new stuff working with in the legions. Having seen what looks like your info ... Yeah... any units in the old LoN battletome are still available to a Legions of Nagash Army. The new stuff is all in the Nighthaunt Faction list... (with the Behemoth version of the Black Coach... and the non-Behemoth version is still in LoN)... and available via Allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infeston Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, RuneBrush said: It refers to you as the player rather than you and your opponent. So over the course of a 5 round game, you'll receive just 5 command points ps I'm sure your English is better than my German! Ok thanks. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infeston Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I also really would have hoped that you don't get any extra artifact anymore, because of battalions. I had hoped that maybe you could purchase artifacts for your heroes with command points. But sadly I don't think it seems this way. I hope that there might be other ways to artifacts for me to get more artifacts for my heroes instead of choosing many battalions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentdeathz Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Infeston said: I also really would have hoped that you don't get any extra artifact anymore, because of battalions. I had hoped that maybe you could purchase artifacts for your heroes with command points. But sadly I don't think it seems this way. I hope that there might be other ways to artifacts for me to get more artifacts for my heroes instead of choosing many battalions. I'd love a way to deck out either 1 hero or just multiple heroes with an artifact. Even at a cost not particularly competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine7six Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, boelimaa said: The wording in German is written totally clear, you roll at the beginning of the game, if a tie, the first dropper decides! if you watch the video on the website she clearly says that in the first battleround the person who deploys first chooses who goes first so there is no double roll off for territory/deployment then turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 minute ago, nine7six said: if you watch the video on the website she clearly says that in the first battleround the person who deploys first chooses who goes first so there is no double roll off for territory/deployment then turn. The community team has made mistakes before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infeston Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, nine7six said: if you watch the video on the website she clearly says that in the first battleround the person who deploys first chooses who goes first so there is no double roll off for territory/deployment then turn. Jeah I get that. So the final question will be which source is right. It makes it even harder that the official sources (which all come from GW) all state different things. For the moment I as a german will rely on the official core rules document, which you normally would also get if you buy the game. Because these are the rules I have to look up when playing the game and which will propably be included in the starter set in the german version. The official english rules can also be interpreted the way it was written in german. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine7six Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, PJetski said: The community team has made mistakes before that they have, but I'd still take the word and representation in the video that came out hours ago on ageofsigmar.com to people here trying to interpret the meaning in different languages to validate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMMachine Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, RuneBrush said: Agreed - I always find it quite amusing that the German version often is more precise about rules! And in the end we still have the wrong rule for ur-gold runes in the german version (even in GHB2018). On a role of 6 we "get the enhanced effect" not "also get the enhanced effect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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