Raviv Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 According to the warscroll, one of 3 Sequitors may be equipped with a greatmace. It's disappointing that we don't get any of those in the starter box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Siorra said: Outside of wishlisting happening in this very thread, why do people think AoS2 will introduce chargers fighting first? I've seen zero mention of it, and I can't help but feel it would break Idoneth, Ironjawz and Khorne Deamons armies, making them far too strong (in my opinion, of course). We're already losing some of the more tactical decisions behind piling in, so I hope they also don't remove the strategy behind picking who fights and when. But I guess that's just me wishlisting... Yeah I thought the same. I don't recall exactly who it was, but it was a frequent "leaker/rumour monger" on this forum, and they were adamant it was going to happen and I said I doubt it because it would require huge re-pointing for all units and destruction would be too powerful. They said "It's happening", pretty confidently! Glad to see it's not happening, it seemed a bit silly when it was announced on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Grontik said: I could be pulling a brainfart here but on the Evocators Empower ability it can be used on Sancrosanct or Redeemer (?) units. Who has the Redeemer keyword? With all the news lately I could have missed something but that stood out for some reason. Literally just Liberators. They are from the Redeemer conclave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Raviv said: According to the warscroll, one of 3 Sequitors may be equipped with a greatmace. It's disappointing that we don't get any of those in the starter box. it has always been like that for ages (sadly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Raviv said: According to the warscroll, one of 3 Sequitors may be equipped with a greatmace. It's disappointing that we don't get any of those in the starter box. You get 2 and then the champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Raviv said: According to the warscroll, one of 3 Sequitors may be equipped with a greatmace. It's disappointing that we don't get any of those in the starter box. Those are typically added into the non-monopose model kits. (Blood Warriors were similar.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, stato said: You get 2 and then the champion Yeah. That does make the unit "illegal", tho ? Because either it's one unit of 8 Sequitors with 2 maces (it's ok) but 2 Sequitors-Prime (not ok !) Or it's two units of 5 Sequitors with Shield and 1 prime (it's ok) and one unit of 3 Sequtiors with 2 maces (not ok !) with one Prime ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, amysrevenge said: How can we interpret that? Is this a wzzard that can't cast the endless spell or other nice incoming magic things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: How can we interpret that? Is this a wzzard that can't cast the endless spell or other nice incoming magic things? That's what the Warscroll says. It's basically a hero phase ability that can be unboud, but they also get to unbind a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstone Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: Yeah. That does make the unit "illegal", tho ? Because either it's one unit of 8 Sequitors with 2 maces (it's ok) but 2 Sequitors-Prime (not ok !) Or it's two units of 5 Sequitors with Shield and 1 prime (it's ok) and one unit of 3 Sequtiors with 2 maces (not ok !) with one Prime ! The way the rules for the prime are written, it suggests the champion is allowed the great mace on top of the 1 in 3 already allowed (at least, thats how it seems to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Todd Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: How can we interpret that? Is this a wzzard that can't cast the endless spell or other nice incoming magic things? "It cannot attempt to cast any spells other than Empower..." is a pretty clear "No". Edit - Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Moonstone said: The way the rules for the prime are written, it suggests the champion is allowed the great mace on top of the 1 in 3 already allowed (at least, thats how it seems to me). The unit of 8 incluldes 2 'Primes' or at least models with a prime shoulder pad. Simple answer is its a unit of 8 and the Prime with the big hammer is the champ if you use a unit of 8. Or run as 2 units of 4 with a hammer and prime in each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJ Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, stato said: The unit of 8 incluldes 2 'Primes' or at least models with a prime shoulder pad. Simple answer is its a unit of 8 and the Prime with the big hammer is the champ if you use a unit of 8. Or run as 2 units of 4 with a hammer and prime in each. Another legal split would be one unit of 5 with one prime and one great mace. Then another unit of three with one prime and one great mace. The prime with the great mace could be in either unit. Do you think the match play points will come in multiples of three models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstone Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Anyone else catch the fact the Ballista is considered as 1 model, so no crew sniping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Golem said: Basically because there were rumours the rules for close combat would become similar to WH40K: as you can guess (or perhaps you already know) in the dark future, chargers attack first. I don't think chargers attacking first will be a thing in AoS because close combat doesn't have the same impact in AoS and WH40K: in WH40K, fighters choose one melee weapon to attack with, while in AoS fighters attack with all the melee weapons they have at their disposal. Thus the idea of chargers attacking first is a lot scarier in AoS. Also there is quie substantial difference in the importance of close combat to deal damage between the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJ Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: Because either it's one unit of 8 Sequitors with 2 maces (it's ok) but 2 Sequitors-Prime (not ok !) You could designate one prime (ideally the prime without the grand mace) as not being a leader. Or convert it using a quick head swap if the visual look is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingwalnut Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Moonstone said: Anyone else catch the fact the Ballista is considered as 1 model, so no crew sniping I did! I am excited and hope this is the new way for all artillery. Would maks my Ironweld super happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 AoS Facebook pages just posted a picture of the Malign Sorcery components. Nothing really new, the book, 13 models and 14 warscroll cards. Presumably the extra card is for the balewind vortex. If that single model can be expanded to a full "faction", there's hope giants yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golem Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Moonstone said: Anyone else catch the fact the Ballista is considered as 1 model, so no crew sniping I noticed that. GW did the same thing with the Dark Elf Bolt Thrower in the latest Dark Elf Compendium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 This will simplify things. And the new shooting rules make it even clearer when/how it can shoot. 3 models for design purpose but only one in game purpose. I think it is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 It also makes them quite much more desirable when you can't silence them with 2-3 wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 But....Yes there is a but: random and kinda short ranged. It is interesting thazt they still can move+ shoot. For me, minimum 2 of them. I hope that the kit will give another machine... (I can dream ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Moonstone said: The way the rules for the prime are written, it suggests the champion is allowed the great mace on top of the 1 in 3 already allowed (at least, thats how it seems to me). Yeah - but what I wanted to say is that, reading the warscroll : - One unit of 8 Sequitors with 2 prime is "illegal" ; and ; - One unit of 3 sequitors with 2 maces is illegal too (the Prime adding another Mace is legal itself - but a legal unit of 3 sequitors would be : 1 with great mace, 1 prime with great mace, and 1 with shield). So the Soul Wars sequitors unite are "illegal" as per the Warscroll posted this afternoon (with the multi part plastic kit, and the easy-to-build add-on it won't be a problem of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asamu Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Raviv said: According to the warscroll, one of 3 Sequitors may be equipped with a greatmace. It's disappointing that we don't get any of those in the starter box. There are 3 grandhammers in this picture. One for the prime, who disregards the normal limit on great-maces, and 2 others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: Yeah - but what I wanted to say is that, reading the warscroll : - One unit of 8 Sequitors with 2 prime is "illegal" ; and ; - One unit of 3 sequitors with 2 maces is illegal too (the Prime adding another Mace is legal itself - but a legal unit of 3 sequitors would be : 1 with great mace, 1 prime with great mace, and 1 with shield). So the Soul Wars sequitors unite are "illegal" as per the Warscroll posted this afternoon (with the multi part plastic kit, and the easy-to-build add-on it won't be a problem of course) Eh? what are you looking at. EDIT: They have 8 models, 2 have maces, 2 have prime shoulders. You can run as 2 4s with a prime and mace in each. You can also buy a booster of 3, with 1 mace and 1 prime. All these are legal by the scroll. Want to run a unit of 8, well 2 primes in a unit is illegal, so you just tell your opponent which one is actually the prime, just like everyone who runs a unit of 30 liberators does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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