Thalion Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Sactownbri said: The FAQ updated the attack characteristic to 6 for the leviadon harpoon launcher. Now the model has 12 shots.? That was what I understood from the FAQ... But could be just an interpretation. Another question: are AotS forced to choose the enclave signature spell? The rule does especifies that "Tidecasters" will now the spell, does it means that the binding keyword is not "Wizard", hence the Eidolon can still choose from the regular lore, I assume...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sactownbri Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Thalion said: That was what I understood from the FAQ... But could be just an interpretation. Another question: are AotS forced to choose the enclave signature spell? The rule does especifies that "Tidecasters" will now the spell, does it means that the binding keyword is not "Wizard", hence the Eidolon can still choose from the regular lore, I assume...? It only affects the Tidecaster(s) in your battleforged army. The Aspect does not have the Tidecaster keyword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djoblo Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Sactownbri said: The FAQ updated the attack characteristic to 6 for the leviadon harpoon launcher. Now the model has 12 shots.? 6 attack, stop it https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Errata/warhammer_aos_rules_en.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Sactownbri said: The FAQ updated the attack characteristic to 6 for the leviadon harpoon launcher. Now the model has 12 shots.? It definitely isn't 12 shots. Relevant passage from the Q&A Djoblo linked above: Q: What happens if I have two of the same weapon? Do I double the number of attacks made by the weapon? A: If models are armed with identical weapons they do not double the number of attacks, but will usually gain an extra ability instead It's six attacks total, which represents two harpoon launchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Hi all. I finished painting AoS and just wanted to share with you. I like more the Ionrach enclave colors but this mini looks amazing even with a cow on his head. Hope u like it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drheroism Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 11:07 AM, Namiriel said: The above combined with 2nd edition's "non general characters getting to use command abilities" means you can also do the above with Volt included. Gross. And if you have a keyword king, a Tidecaster and Soulscryer with a bunch of eels, it's pretty easy to make that a two drop. Agreed. The only part that is a bummer is that you won't ever be able to use his primary Command Ability because it is worded that he has to be the general. I have to say, they really took their time with this Battletome. Very carefully worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botinok Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Dear, Could you share any ideas(or images) on making idoneth soldiers in full armor? or just how to cover naked body parts. I though that a dont want to paint too much flesh and want to make them more knighs alike. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Botinok said: Dear, Could you share any ideas(or images) on making idoneth soldiers in full armor? or just how to cover naked body parts. I though that a dont want to paint too much flesh and want to make them more knighs alike. Thank you Perhaps buy some fully-armoured Aelves such as Blackguard and put Thrall heads on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 8:07 AM, Namiriel said: And if you have a keyword king, a Tidecaster and Soulscryer with a bunch of eels, it's pretty easy to make that a two drop. I don't see this??? The soul scryer and any who join him are each separate drops. As per the wording of the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Hey all, the London GT just finished (around 66 players). The highest ranking Idoneth list, placing 7th: (Matt Hinton) Fueathan Enclave Isharann Tidecaster- General, Born from Agony, Steed of Tides Isharann Tidecaster- Tide of Fear Isharann Soulscryer Eidolonn of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea- Augury Shells, Abyssal Darkness 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 9x Ishlaen Guard 3x Morsarr Guard 3x Morsarr Guard Balewind Vortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, hughwyeth said: Hey all, the London GT just finished (around 66 players). The highest ranking Idoneth list, placing 7th: (Matt Hinton) Fueathan Enclave Isharann Tidecaster- General, Born from Agony, Steed of Tides Isharann Tidecaster- Tide of Fear Isharann Soulscryer Eidolonn of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea- Augury Shells, Abyssal Darkness 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 9x Ishlaen Guard 3x Morsarr Guard 3x Morsarr Guard Balewind Vortex Looks pretty cool. Suprized to see reavers and not allying in dark shards who do more damage early on and over two turns would pump out more than the reavers would (assuming they don't get in shot gun range turn 1). Similarly kinari are in abit the same boat but abit squishier. Steed of tides aspect of the sea coming in big as i had though before. Putting it on a vortex to me still seems pretty questionably expensive. I see it boosting the cover bonus range from abyssal darkness so you can more freely move the ishlaen guard. Like the heavy ishlaen focus and the go for the 2+ save. Also good number of tide casters i'm currently rocking 3 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompe Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, hughwyeth said: Hey all, the London GT just finished (around 66 players). The highest ranking Idoneth list, placing 7th: (Matt Hinton) Fueathan Enclave Isharann Tidecaster- General, Born from Agony, Steed of Tides Isharann Tidecaster- Tide of Fear Isharann Soulscryer Eidolonn of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea- Augury Shells, Abyssal Darkness 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 9x Ishlaen Guard 3x Morsarr Guard 3x Morsarr Guard Balewind Vortex Are you sure about the list? Looks like 2020 points to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Pompe said: Are you sure about the list? Looks like 2020 points to me. Positive- comes up as 2,000 on the list builder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompe Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Ah, switched the Morsarr and Ishlaen guard around My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, mmimzie said: Looks pretty cool. Suprized to see reavers and not allying in dark shards who do more damage early on and over two turns would pump out more than the reavers would (assuming they don't get in shot gun range turn 1). Similarly kinari are in abit the same boat but abit squishier. Steed of tides aspect of the sea coming in big as i had though before. Putting it on a vortex to me still seems pretty questionably expensive. I see it boosting the cover bonus range from abyssal darkness so you can more freely move the ishlaen guard. Like the heavy ishlaen focus and the go for the 2+ save. Also good number of tide casters i'm currently rocking 3 of them Those changes would leave the list with no battle line options. My fuethan build doesn't look significantly different, I like it because it saves points on the King, and buffs reaver shooting. I'm just not 100% sure the shooting is even worth the buff, but some shooting is always nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, whispersofblood said: Those changes would leave the list with no battle line options. My fuethan build doesn't look significantly different, I like it because it saves points on the King, and buffs reaver shooting. I'm just not 100% sure the shooting is even worth the buff, but some shooting is always nice. yeah just figured that out. I'd rather save points on the reavers <.< think 1 king might do more al lgame than 3 units of reavers x.x. That said i haven't really messed with the reavers at all because they look so meh on paper. Also the reavers can play a decent objective holding role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedus Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Interesting. I really want to run a list with multiple reavers. What's the general go to strategy for that list... Tidecaster summons vortex and then teleports Eidolon amongst the enemy lines? Ishlaen move up the board as reavers mop up the objectives behind them? Then the morsarr move with Soulscryer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, hughwyeth said: Hey all, the London GT just finished (around 66 players). The highest ranking Idoneth list, placing 7th: (Matt Hinton) Fueathan Enclave Isharann Tidecaster- General, Born from Agony, Steed of Tides Isharann Tidecaster- Tide of Fear Isharann Soulscryer Eidolonn of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea- Augury Shells, Abyssal Darkness 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 9x Ishlaen Guard 3x Morsarr Guard 3x Morsarr Guard Balewind Vortex Really interesting list. Also, that is a hobby BEAST to assemble and paint that many Akhelian Guard in what, 24 hrs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Kaedus said: Interesting. I really want to run a list with multiple reavers. What's the general go to strategy for that list... Tidecaster summons vortex and then teleports Eidolon amongst the enemy lines? Ishlaen move up the board as reavers mop up the objectives behind them? Then the morsarr move with Soulscryer? I would assume you teleport the aspect up the table. Set the fortex up middle of the table. Doubling the cover bubble range 18" circles of covers in the middle of the table. Throw down tsunami while you are on that vortex. Then make a wall with the ishlaen, and grab objectives with reavers/tide casters, and kill what you gotta with morrsarr. I'[d imagine 2+reroll stardrake would be a nightmare to go against, as it's mostly mortal wounds and and the stardrake more or less needs to be put down in a single turn or else it's alive all game. The ishlaen try to wall off change host from making it up the table as well. Good against KO, other list i'm saure give it some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skevin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 what is the Matt Hinton list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Skevin said: what is the Matt Hinton list ? I posted it previously- Fueathan Enclave Isharann Tidecaster- General, Born from Agony, Steed of Tides Isharann Tidecaster- Tide of Fear Isharann Soulscryer Eidolonn of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea- Augury Shells, Abyssal Darkness 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 10x Reavers 9x Ishlaen Guard 3x Morsarr Guard 3x Morsarr Guard Balewind Vortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompe Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 How does a Balewind Vortex effect Vorpal Maelstrom? Is it only the 18" range or is it the 3" damage range as well? That is would it be a 36"/6" range? My gut says that its 36"/3", but on the other hand it says "double the range of any spell" and the 3" is a range of the spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namiriel Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 9:31 AM, mmimzie said: I don't see this??? The soul scryer and any who join him are each separate drops. As per the wording of the rule. You take 2 formations :Ankhelion Corps and... Royal Court(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annarborhawk Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I'm a bit confused. The command point leaks tell us we can use command points to use the command abilities of non-general heroes. Yet the wording of ID hero command abilities is: "If x is your general, then......" This wording seems to imply that such command abilities CANNOT be used with command points on non-general heroes. Seems very significant with the Tidecaster. I'd like to use her command ability to reverse the order of the Tides of Death (great with Futhan) yet have Volturnous as my General (so I can give 3x units +1 attack on turn 2 in light of tidecaster ability). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrielCaine Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 22 hours ago, Caladancid said: Really interesting list. Also, that is a hobby BEAST to assemble and paint that many Akhelian Guard in what, 24 hrs! It sure was wasn’t it @Skyel... released 11 hours before first dice roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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