newsun Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 What have people been thinking in regards to Akhelian Guard unit sizes. Which are you picking and why? P.s. I'm unsure how discussing personal purchases or statistics from hearsay helps the group with playing and figuring out IDK tactics and strategy, this mostly seems like bloat posts regarding sales unless someone is quoting exact hard numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Regarding the Allopex, I played a game last night with a group of 2 of them(proxied with my fulminators). They did far better than I thought they would, killed off a couple 20 blocks of blood reavers and picked off a few wounds on some slaughterpriests while only taking about 4 wounds themselves. I'm starting to think there may be a place for one or two in the army, maybe coming on with a Scryer and another unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Saw some new points leaks for us, I heard some people said nothing changed but I saw a few changes: AoSea 420 Scryer 80 Morrsarr 140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Drofnum said: Saw some new points leaks for us, I heard some people said nothing changed but I saw a few changes: AoSea 420 Scryer 80 Morrsarr 140 The pics I saw were blurry, I figured it was the AoStorm that went up to 420, you're sure it was AoSea that went down? Because it looks like the other aspect is at 440 now. Also, the pic I saw made it look like Leviadons are now 440? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, chosen_of_khaine said: The pics I saw were blurry, I figured it was the AoStorm that went up to 420, you're sure it was AoSea that went down? Because it looks like the other aspect is at 440 now. Also, the pic I saw made it look like Leviadons are now 440? You're right on the Aspect, I was thinking storm and typed sea. You're right on the Leviadon as well, I missed that one, but why in the world did he go up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drofnum said: You're right on the Aspect, I was thinking storm and typed sea. You're right on the Leviadon as well, I missed that one, but why in the world did he go up? I actually just found a different pic in a review, and it does look like it was the AoSea that went down 20 points, and both the AoStorm and Leviadon went up to 440, which makes no sense. Again, a little blurry, but I'm pretty sure you were right the first time. I'm new here, would I be allowed to post a pic from a youtube video for reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, chosen_of_khaine said: I actually just found a different pic in a review, and it does look like it was the AoSea that went down 20 points, and both the AoStorm and Leviadon went up to 440, which makes no sense. Again, a little blurry, but I'm pretty sure you were right the first time. I would be happy with AoSea going down, it would net me 120 points on my current list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Wow, of AoSea goes 220 and soulscryer goes 80 means that changing Volturnos for a King I could fit another tidecaster... nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Another good thing is spaming command abilities seems prety confirmed with the new rules barring any sort of Generals hand book limitation. Meaning the king morrsarr bomb is still a thing. Also makes a good arguement for either the king hiding strat or the double king strat to make sure you have a king on the table for a big turn 3 bomb. Also with picking new general. You could make a tidecasterr your general. Swap the tides, bring said tidecaster on via soul scryer on turn 1, have her charge something that's really killy. Since your opponent is now forces to make all attacks they can. Then you can almost garenteee the tide caster will die in some cases. With the now dead tide caster you can elect your king as general, and then turn 2 morrsarr bomb. Thats a few tumblers that have to click into place, but it isn't all too unrealistic to do reguarly i'd think. Currently, i'm torn between a magic heavy list with an aspect of the sea and several tide casters. Using the endless spells and some or our stronger spell from out own lore to get a good early advantage, before bring on a hidden king with cloud of midnight and some morrsarr to clean up turn 3. In this one the morrsarr block is smaller like 6-9man squads, and has a 6-9man ishlaen guard unit for protecting all the casters. Or Running a marshal focused army with one big 12 man block of morrsarr and 2 kings, with a few ishlaen and maybe a turtle. edit: NVM forget the turtle <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Also, weirdly, none of the Idoneth points changes in the GH2018 have stars next to the units with changes, unlike every other faction (including those that weren't in GH2017 like DoK), so who knows where the typos are, if there are any... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, mmimzie said: Also with picking new general. I believe in matched play this doesnt happen. In the second edition thread someone posted confirming its only for open/narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaz Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, chosen_of_khaine said: Also, weirdly, none of the Idoneth points changes in the GH2018 have stars next to the units with changes, unlike every other faction (including those that weren't in GH2017 like DoK), so who knows where the typos are, if there are any... because there's probably no point changes :v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollcage Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Qaz said: because there's probably no point changes :v. The points did indeed change, and there is indeed no stars next to the points changes. Morrsarr -20 Leviadon +60 Sea aspect -20 Storm aspect +40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaz Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rollcage said: The points did indeed change, and there is indeed no stars next to the points changes. Morrsarr -20 Leviadon +60 Sea aspect -20 Storm aspect +40 Ah. The star means changed from previous general's handbook so since there were no entry beforehand it isn't starred. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy1486 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 +60 on the leviadon?? Unless there are substantial rule changes, that eliminates in from a semi-compeditive list (2000) for me. Reduced guard and sea aspects though is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompe Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Are those the only changes? Could anyone link the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 royal court is 100. Thats all the changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollcage Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Well Namarti corps + 20pts Akhelian corps +40pts Soulscryer - 20pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Morsarr going -20 is fantastic!! With scryer, morsarr and AoSea going -20 I can fit one more Tidecaster without changing Volturos into King. Super happy with changes!! Leviadon is a hard thing to use it, too much points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Qaz said: Ah. The star means changed from previous general's handbook so since there were no entry beforehand it isn't starred. I stand corrected. This is also inaccurate, because as I said in my post, Daughters of Khaine have changes indicated by stars despite not being in GH2017. It's bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeve Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Do we have a source on these point values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, chosen_of_khaine said: This is also inaccurate, because as I said in my post, Daughters of Khaine have changes indicated by stars despite not being in GH2017. It's bizarre. DoK were in the last ghb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djoblo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Soon : Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin - Enclave: Fuethan Leaders Akhelian King (240) - General Isharann Soulscryer (80) Battleline 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) Total: 2000 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, Djoblo said: Soon : Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin - Enclave: Fuethan Leaders Akhelian King (240) - General Isharann Soulscryer (80) Battleline 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) 9 x Akhelian Morssarr Guard (420) Total: 2000 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 156 Feel epic but I would change to Volturnos and one unit of 6 to fit a tidecaster because maybe u need a dispel or something and I like his debuf + volturnos buff to more units almost bufs all the army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djoblo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hoseman said: Feel epic but I would change to Volturnos and one unit of 6 to fit a tidecaster because maybe u need a dispel or something and I like his debuf + volturnos buff to more units almost bufs all the army I was joking, but yeah, if I want to be that guy, i'll probably run with 6+volti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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