Major Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 So reading allllll of this, not many people seem to think it's Deathrattle that will be getting a new kit out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I was hoping to finally have a reason to paint the last of my 120 skeletons and get some more black knights and grave guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillofNagash Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I think as was stated, deathrattle is not enough for a whole battletome. Your looking at 4 models. Skeletons grave guard, black knights and wight king. this is far better than a deathrattle battletome brother. It’s probably going to be a spell lore for death, and battalions we can actually use. It will be glorious! All of our newest models are finally getting something to make them worth putting on the table. By that I mean the mortarchs, nagash, basically everything from the end times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Whatever happens, I'm just happy I'm going to be able to run either Neferata or Mannfred as generals on a list with Blood Knights and get an allegiance bonus other than 6++ save lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 23 hours ago, smucreo said: Whatever happens, I'm just happy I'm going to be able to run either Neferata or Mannfred as generals on a list with Blood Knights and get an allegiance bonus other than 6++ save lol. So true...im hoping for some good battaltions they can lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmir Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I'm curious about how they will change the rules for generic death armies... And I'm wondering if any changes there might have repercussions for the FEC battletome. Right now, the FEC specific traits are so f'ing lack lustre that they might as well not be there. I've had 3 games in succesion with them where they ended up doing nothing and that's when I shelved my FEC in favor of Generic Death. Limiting myself to a virtually rend-less army was no good trade off to trying to roll a 6+ (when it actually could make a difference) once or twice in a game or re-rolling a one on a charge. If the general death traits are made better, abandoning FEC allegiance might be the default choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It's funny how when you consider it, the better allegiance traits we have are those of the likes of Soulblight, and those give us things like +2" extra movement and the 6++ if close to a hero. Meanwhile destiny dice still exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Destiny Dice, Wyldwoods, Runes, Skyports, Nurgles Wheel, even Hosts. Our allegiance abilities are both weak and dull next to all those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I'd love to see some better and/or flashier allegiance abilities for Death proper, but the current set was only printed a few short months ago. It is unlikely that the dev's opinions on them have changed enough since then that we would be seeing radical changes to them already. It's certainly possible, but it's probably a mistake to pin any hopes on it. Again, please remember, this book was probably ready to send to the printers before GW had a chance to see any meaningful feedback from GH'17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingInYellow Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 This new tome is certainly bringing me back into the fold. I've put my Sylvaneth aside and I'm building boney bois as fast as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heromaster Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 reliable source says potentially in stores on February 10th. ****** engaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, heromaster said: reliable source says potentially in stores on February 10th. ****** engaged. Yeah ive heard similar dates too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbox Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, heromaster said: reliable source says potentially in stores on February 10th. ****** engaged. *Cautiously vibrates with excitement* I hope they give me a good reason to take multiple vampire lords. I've got about 7 (i just really like my vampires) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmir Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Well, there was mention in WD of Vampire Thralls, which did look like footsoldiers. They are essentially the guys and gals who got turned by a vampire and often end up like the original vampire. Maybe they will intoduce a "light hero" variant of the vampire lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 That is hecka earlier than i expected, and if true would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone2040 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Elmir said: Well, there was mention in WD of Vampire Thralls, which did look like footsoldiers. They are essentially the guys and gals who got turned by a vampire and often end up like the original vampire. Maybe they will intoduce a "light hero" variant of the vampire lord. Saw that picture when I read the WD, it's super cool. Would love to see a unit of Foot Vampires like that. That's the kinda foot vampire unit I can get behind existing in the game. Not full Vampires but Thralls who aren't quite there yet. The kinda unit that Soulblight is missing to really add that little extra flavour into the faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On the other hand, while I'm excited about a maybe earlier than expected release for Legions of Nagash, it now looks like we won't even be getting all the way through Malign Portents before the elves steal our thunder, with likely the biggest news out of the entire campaign being Morathi's appearance, and nothing to do with Death at all. It's looking more and more likely to me that we'll be on to a big dark elf release, fancy new model for Morathi before Malign Portents is even over, and Death will have seen nothing new beyond the knight of shrouds and Grand Alliance: Death 2.0. Heck, the campaign will probably end with Morathi kicking Nagash's butt and sending him back to the underworld, because jobbing like Worf to prove how hot whatever the new hottness is is basically all he's good for in the AoS narrative. And that'll just be it for us for another 16 to 24 months or so, apart from maybe another non-release battle tome or two tucked into a slow month here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppelwhat Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Uh oh. What's getting axed? Not Deathlords. Probably not FEC. Deathmages? Deathrattle? Nighthaunts? Deathwalker? SoulBlight? Only two can survive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Please read the thread, or at least like the first page or two. Nothing's getting axed, apart from maybe some redundant keywords, & possibly some scroll consolidation maybe. The current model line for death remains unchanged, apart from some things being repackaged on rounds. The 'six allegiances' are the ones with allegiance rules in the book, they wont be only subfaction allegiances death has. FEC for instance, will remain its own allegiance with its own allegiance rules in its own battletome, and those rules will stay current even though they wont be reprinted in this book, though the FEC unit scrolls will be. As for which allegiance rules *are* in the book, that was in the origional announcement and discussed at length early in this thread. Just look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbox Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Sception said: On the other hand, while I'm excited about a maybe earlier than expected release for Legions of Nagash, it now looks like we won't even be getting all the way through Malign Portents before the elves steal our thunder, with likely the biggest news out of the entire campaign being Morathi's appearance, and nothing to do with Death at all. It's looking more and more likely to me that we'll be on to a big dark elf release, fancy new model for Morathi before Malign Portents is even over, and Death will have seen nothing new beyond the knight of shrouds and Grand Alliance: Death 2.0. Heck, the campaign will probably end with Morathi kicking Nagash's butt and sending him back to the underworld, because jobbing like Worf to prove how hot whatever the new hottness is is basically all he's good for in the AoS narrative. And that'll just be it for us for another 16 to 24 months or so, apart from maybe another non-release battle tome or two tucked into a slow month here or there. Whilst I'm excited for the potential daughters of khaine release as I've recently started a project of them I am hoping we still get more death stuff this year. Though it is a shame we've not had a snazzy trailer too I will remain optimistic that we will see something new, however at this point a rewrite to our current warscrolls would be a nice first step. Get our core fixed before introducing new factions. But I will be peeved if LoN is all we get since this has been hyped to be the year of death etc. Personally I think something will be done with the vampire thralls (possibly a later release or maybe a new unit using the foot vampire models) since it feels a bit strange for them to be put in that article out of the blue. Sure it could be a fluff thing but I've wanted vampy footsoldiers for ages so I hold out hope whatever they do for death it likely won't be till after malign portents that we see anything really new though the end of malign portents would be a great way to kick into either a new BT release or new teasers for a new death subfaction. (maybe we can have a new faction based around living gargoyle statues and terracotta soldiers Or maybe I should try and expunge that rather poor third mummy film from my brain...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 They're not going to be axing subfactions so much as consolidating them together if they have any sense. Deathmages and Deadwalkers are perfect examples of stub subfactions that can't really be fleshed out and should just be rolled into the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Come on people...how many times has all this been said. Confirmed: new models. NEW, not rehashed, allegiance stuff. That post above said 4 new ones. Nothing is going bye bye. And LoN wont have any of the new models and such. I feel like all this should be obvious and common sense by now. Its not even February yet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Where exactly were new models confirmed? All I've seen are coy references to the possibility of new models some time in the future, which is the same line we've been getting since AoS was released, and doesn't mean new models apart from the knight of shrouds are necessarily any closer to release now than they were two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbossKurgan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Lightbox said: Though it is a shame we've not had a snazzy trailer too Um.... isn't the entire Malign Portents build up is Death's "snazzy trailer"? 9 hours ago, Sception said: now looks like we won't even be getting all the way through Malign Portents before the elves steal our thunder It is possible that Malign Portents will last all year, so I think we can expect a few more releases for other factions in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think we have a right to have low morale when the event that was supposed to be all about Death keeps getting sidetracked in favour of other Allegiances. Don't get me wrong, I love Nurgle, but it was as disapointing as it is to see a new teaser for the new aelfs. And one book that is basically a compilation of all existing rules for all we know doesn't change that. Now, if later it's revealed that new stuff is coming I'll be the first one to be happy about it. It's just that I'm not that hopeful for now, just like Sception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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