Nevar Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 hours ago, kenshin620 said: The new Mortarch is here, and seems to be a completely brand new character. I did not expect to love this model after seeing the art for her in the video teaser, but even so it seems very static. That said I don't dislike her, she has a lot of cool stuff going for her like the veil. Like other GW models I have seen in the past the paint job might be doing her some disservice. Mortarion looked terrible in his initial reveals, but on seeing the model in person it made all the difference. That paint job really lacks any contrast. I also really dislike her two bashee attendants but a quick conversion can swap them out for some Grim Ghast reapers or something cooler to me. Overall, cool model, not a need to buy now model but one I will likely pick up eventually if only to convert and paint her. I think she would look very good with some of the ethereal methods I am looking to attempt for my Nighthaunt going forward. How fragile does she look though for real. Maybe just removing the attendants will help as they are likely to snag on things and twist the supporting dress piece. Her alone will likely be pretty self contained and easy to avoid breaking. Oh and final thought, she could be good conversion fodder for a custom Necron C-Tan shard. I wonder what base size she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 @Nevar I'm betting a 60. Also, I think the sculpt is great. Overall to me the whole range has a more Tim Burton feel to it and not the realistically undeath feel of older ranges. Just my perseption. I like it! I'm a fan of both designs but I do like what they've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalassic Monstrosity Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vasshpit said: @Nevar I'm betting a 60. Overall to me the whole range has a more Tim Burton feel to it and not the realistically undeath feel of older ranges. Amy Lee from Evanescence did a cover of Sally's Song from Nightmare Before Christmas. I'm not a fan of either, but for some reason your remark - and the context of this character - made that song go off in my head. How strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I’m a little sad that Isabella isn’t making a grand return as a power in her own right, but I’ve said many times that what death most needs in AoS character-wise is brand new names and faces grounded in the mortal realms, so I couldn’t be happier with our lovely new ghost queen. Model wise, I think she looks great, though as I feared previously, I do think the model doesn’t do enough with that huge base, and there seems to be some very break- and wobble-prone narrow connections. A bit of creative basing should help with all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inqy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Ekrund Oath Splitters said: they havent said if they are summonable, i believe they would be as the guardian should be able to heal them? but if your going to use them for nighthaunt and not LoN then gravesites dont exist I might hold off on them until the battletome as i personally think they dont work well with just using death as there allegiance when going pure NH. *I honestly thought the deathbell would do more than 1 attack. They could of gave it a mechanic that affected bravery, raised the dead, cause some mortal wounds or stopped units from falling back.* Rumour going round the net is that the deathbell can do mortal wounds to nearby units when it kills things, but in the demogame they got killed off before it could get used. If so Grimghasts might be viable, particularly if buffed by heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophe Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 an other angle, close up of her on GW main page https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, Sception said: I’m a little sad that Isabella isn’t making a grand return as a power in her own right, but I’ve said many times that what death most needs in AoS character-wise is brand new names and faces grounded in the mortal realms, so I couldn’t be happier with our lovely new ghost queen. Model wise, I think she looks great, though as I feared previously, I do think the model doesn’t do enough with that huge base, and there seems to be some very break- and wobble-prone narrow connections. A bit of creative basing should help with all of that. Yea I think like putting graveyard type stuff to ad some structural integrity would be a good fit. Might even fit an entire statue or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungolah Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, kenshin620 said: The new Mortarch is here, and seems to be a completely brand new character. That appears to be a wedding dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevar Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, christophe said: an other angle, close up of her on GW main page https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Home That is cool, looks like the vines are not directly attached and can be easily removed. Not that I do not like them, just that it makes it easier for me to replace them with Scarabs swarms for a C'Tan conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 First post here, looking at picking up nighthaunts as a second army with the new edition. One thing I keep thinking, with the mortarch, is if it looked like she had some bloody tears, like a weeping angel, that could go a long way to making her more unnerving. That being said, love the model, not so much the attendants, but hey, I can make it work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevar Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 hours ago, adreal said: First post here, looking at picking up nighthaunts as a second army with the new edition. One thing I keep thinking, with the mortarch, is if it looked like she had some bloody tears, like a weeping angel, that could go a long way to making her more unnerving. That being said, love the model, not so much the attendants, but hey, I can make it work I agree with you, it is like they are too much on the nose as opposed to the more subtle horror of her skeletal veil. Bloody tears could be cool, but even a darker color with a light highlight like the executioner would help bring out the visage of death behind the veil a but more. I think it is really just the lack of contrast in the model overall that is throwing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophe Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, adreal said: One thing I keep thinking, with the mortarch, is if it looked like she had some bloody tears, like a weeping angel, that could go a long way to making her more unnerving. That being said, love the model, not so much the attendants, but hey, I can make it work GW is trying to keep his paint job kids friendly (they even succeed to make Nurgle look pretty), but it's a good idea for your to make it stand out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaelART Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 From the rumour thread: Nighthaunt Chainrasp Horde --10 for 100 (40 for 360) Guardian of Souls --120 Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed --140 Lord Executioner --100 Glaivewraith Stalkers --5 for 80 Grimghast Reapers --4 for 60 Spirit Torment --120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevar Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, ZaelART said: From the rumour thread: Nighthaunt Chainrasp Horde --10 for 100 (40 for 360) Guardian of Souls --120 Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed --140 Lord Executioner --100 Glaivewraith Stalkers --5 for 80 Grimghast Reapers --4 for 60 Spirit Torment --120 Wow those support heroes are more expensive than I imagined. Specifically that Lord Executioner. Grimghasts at 4 man units is weird no? Chainrasps seem well priced. Guardian of Souls is good at 120, but Spirit Torment is more pricey than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmir Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 If that's the point cost of a lord executioner, he's a shelf sitter from the start. Odd number for the reapers, but I'm also kind of happy that this doesn't force you to grab any extra easy to build kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaelART Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, Elmir said: If that's the point cost of a lord executioner, he's a shelf sitter from the start. Odd number for the reapers, but I'm also kind of happy that this doesn't force you to grab any extra easy to build kits. Yeah according to the same source castigators and sequitors are costed in 3s. So odd sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 The new AoS site has a art intro video for the Soul Wars. I forget, is the Undead Pegasus going to be a character or a generic leader? Or do we not know yet? Unless is that just Shroud Knight with some fancy wing effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Can't see myself taking many chainrasps if Spirit Hosts go unchanged. Only 20 more points for a better save and frightful touch makes them seem much better to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, kenshin620 said: The new AoS site has a art intro video for the Soul Wars. I forget, is the Undead Pegasus going to be a character or a generic leader? Or do we not know yet? Unless is that just Shroud Knight with some fancy wing effects? It's a unique one like the craven king and miss oliander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Total speculation but didn't Nagash capture a single Stormcast? Perhaps the nightmare riding person is one such.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, AverageBoss said: Can't see myself taking many chainrasps if Spirit Hosts go unchanged. Only 20 more points for a better save and frightful touch makes them seem much better to me. Turns out they are 80/280 so much more reasonable. Also, full points page: MOD EDIT: Sorry, TGA has a strictly no leaked picture policy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaelART Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 So Nighthaunt can only be included in a GHoN or LoN as allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Or team up with Soulblight... interesting if some synergies might be possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sception Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Bleh, just the starter box stuff, and no access even to the plain old knight of shrouds outside of games using the malign portent rules. Oh, well. I'll gladly take those chainrasps and spirit guardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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