Theduke Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Im trying to decide which cav unit I want, I dont particularly love the new Gore-Gruntas but they are pretty hard hitting. I love the Boarboys but dont know how great they are going to be and the wolf riders are going to take a lot of converting and Im not convinced that are all they great either. Anyone have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySarcasm Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I think you've answered your own question here tbh. You love boar boys, so get boar boys! They look awesome and they are a pretty solid unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I think the wolf riders serve a bit of a different purpose than the other two, anyway - they're not going to get caught up tanking or fighting bigger, hard to kill units - whereas that's exactly what you want either Orruk units doing. The wolfy boys are going after the war machines, or mages, or synergy-causing characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 This is an interesting conversation, and one I've been thinking about. I have several questions regarding Gruntaz, Boar Boyz and Savage Boar Boyz: What's the comparative resilience? -Gruntaz have a 4+ save and 5 wounds and 7 Bravery -Boar Boyz have a 5+ save and reroll failed saves in combat. They can also take Glyph (+2 Bravery =7 in combat) -Savage Boar Boyz have a 6+ save, and get a 'Ward' save on a 6 for any damage that goes through and an Icon (+2 Bravery =7 in combat) How much damage do they do on average? Let's assume they all have Choppas -Gruntaz 3 A 3+ to hit 3+ to wound -1 R 1 D, Maw and Hooves 4 A 4+ to hit 4+ to wound 0 R 1 D (d3 on a charge from over 8" away) -Boar Boyz 1 A 4+ to hit 4+ to wound -1 R 1 D, Tusks 2 A 4+ to hit 4+ to wound 0 R 1 D (reroll to wound on charge) -Savage Boar Boys 1 A 4+ to hit 4+ to wound -1 R 1 D, Tusks 2 A 4+ to hit 4+ to wound 0 R 1 D (reroll to wound on charge) The other consideration: Cost. Gruntaz cost the most, so let's see how the others do at a comparative price point 3 Gruntaz for $80 15 Boar Boyz for $75 15 Savage Boar Boyz for $75 Now the next thing to consider is, what is their job going to be? Synergy is also a consideration, but given these will be chosen for speed that may be a moot point. The final, and most important, consideration: When all the numbers are run, and if they are close...who wins the rule of cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 In fairness, they all look great I have 5 savage boars that need painting and really like the non-savage ones too. Seems like all the boar boys serve the same purpose, will need to see the point costs when they release compared to gore gruntas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatRedoubt Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I ran a unit of 5 Boar Boyz in my game last night and they proved to be surprisingly durable with the re-rollable saves. This unit had spears but will try one with Choppas next time. Definitely need more of them! A mobile Greenskinz army would be fun to run IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would like to hear someone advocate for spears on Boar Boyz. The way I see it, the model shapes don't really allow for proper utilization of the extra inch. They do look cooler with them, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garxia Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Bases solely on their look, Boar Boys are the clear winners, IMO they are one of the best minis on the entire orruk range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stronghold Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Another vote for boar boyz here. Wolf riders are begging for new models... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 That's a good point, how to equip board boyz. I have savages from way back with spears but there lack of charge bonus in aos makes it seem pointless Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonus Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 What are the thoughts on wolf riders with bows buffed by a goblin shaman? I think it would be a fun fast unit acting as a hero/wizard hunter. And it could have some nasty skulkers hidden in it for more fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I haven't played a lot of AoS, I'm not going to allude otherwise. However...from what I've read, Rend is king of the game hence Choppas would presumably be the weapon of choice. I also rolled some dice at random. It seems crazy...but Gruntaz seem to come out on top. They just hit better, despite the numbers the other units have. I'm not saying it's math, it's just a crazy person rolling dice in a vacuum. I actually like the Boar Boys more aesthetically...and to make things even sillier, Savage Boar Boyz would fit into my army theme better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobhammerN8 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I've used savage boar boys on two occasions and found them to be really resistant to damage. They didn't do much, but they were an effective way to slow down the advance of my khorne bloodbound opponent, allowing slower elements like the black orcs to get into advantageous positions. Haven't used the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstimpson38 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Savage Boarboys work nicely against a heavy mortal wound dealing army, haven't used Gore Gruntas or Wolf Riders, but Orruk Boarboys with choppas are a great unit and an awesome model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogger Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I love the GoreGruntas but if you don't like those models and really like the board boyz I'd definitely go with the boar boyz. Don't buy expensive models you don't love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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