Kosmion Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I just finished a game using Neferata as one of my heroes, and i encountered some strange situations: i managed to slay one of my opponents heroes using this: "Dagger of Jet: The Dagger of Jet saps the vitality and ghting spirit of its victims, leaving them at Neferata’s mercy. If a model suffers any wounds from Akmet- har but is not slain, roll a dice at the end of the phase. If the roll is greater than that model’s remaining number of wounds, it cannot fight on or defend itself and is contemptuously slain by Neferata." and as a result, this happened:"Mortarch of Blood: Each time Neferata slays an enemy Hero in the combat phase with either Akmet-har or Aken-seth, she transforms that hero into one of her thralls; you can set up a Vampire Lord within 6" of Neferata. is model is added to your army, but cannot attack in that combat phase." Q.1 The "Mortarch of Blood" ability was generated from Akmet-har, but the weapon itself did not slay the model, do i still get a vampire? Q.2 We assumed that the mechanic was in place in order for Neferata to easily turn people into vampires, so i set up my new vampire within 6" but also in base2base contact with my opponents stegadon, which had previously NOT been in combat. The ability states that the vampire cannot attack in this phase, but what about the stegadon? My opponents hero was slain at the END of the combat phase due to the dagger of jet, thus the combat phase is over. Yet the vampire was set up within striking distance of the stegadon (no 3" rule mentioned), so it should be able to attack the vampire, even though the combat phase is eledegly over... right? Another question that popped up was with my wight king with infernal standard: "Infernal Standard: Infernal Standards are saturated with death magic, which can sustain the undead. A Wight King with an Infernal Standard has the Totem keyword. Roll a dice each time a Death model from your army is slain within 9" of an Infernal Standard. On a 6, the magic of the Infernal Standard sustains that warrior and the wound that slew him is ignored. In your hero phase, a Wight King can plant his standard; if he does so, you cannot move him until your next hero phase, but until then the Infernal Standard’s in uence is extended to 18". " Q.3 A situation came up where my opponent charged my nearby necromancer, thus getting the wight king within 3" who had planted the banner the turn before. The ability states that he may not MOVE until my next hero phase, but what about pile ins? Are they referring to the game stat "Move 4 inches" or physically moving the model in any way at all? We concluded that pile ins were allowed, but not move, run, charge or retreat. Is this correct? Sorry if I'm asking obvious questions, I've started playing death pretty recently so theres just a lot to take in hehe thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bademeister Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Neferata, Q1: i think you are just alowed to add a vampire lord, when you kill the enemy Hero with one of her weapons (either Akmet-har or Aken-seth) in the melee phase. When a Model ist slain by the Ability Dagger of Jet, i is not slain by either Akmet-har or Aken-seth. So you are not alowed to add a vampire lord. Q2: I think that the Stadegon can not attack your Vampire Lord, because it is the end of the Combat phase. In my Group we Start and End each phase asking our opponent if he/she wanna do something. If not we go on end there can't be activated abilities in the beginning or end of any phase. Q3: Piling in with a model is a move action. You can't pile in. You can attack with your King, but just in the weapon range (1''). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countmoore Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Q1 dagger of jet/Akmet-har is the same weapon. Both abilities happen in the combat phase and so I would not see any reason why you would not get a pet vampire. Q2. Dagger of jet rule is at the end of the phase therefore after attacks and so in this instance would be untargetable. If slain in the more traditional way the vamp would be placed mid phase and so would be targetable. Q3. Cannot move at all I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmion Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Countmoore said: Q1 dagger of jet/Akmet-har is the same weapon. Both abilities happen in the combat phase and so I would not see any reason why you would not get a pet vampire. Q2. Dagger of jet rule is at the end of the phase therefore after attacks and so in this instance would be untargetable. If slain in the more traditional way the vamp would be placed mid phase and so would be targetable. Q3. Cannot move at all I'm afraid. thank you! thats what i concluded as well, seems the most logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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