Imperial Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Any info about Kharadron Overlords list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 9 Ironjawz (4 major victory, 1 lose vs Squigs) An Ironjawz player on 4 majors and well in with a shout for taking out Heat 3! List looks like (could be wrong): Cabbage Megaboss Chanter Shaman 20 Ardboys 5 Brutes 5 Brutes 6 Gruntas Ironfist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadysaneto Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Imperial said: 9 Ironjawz (4 major victory, 1 lose vs Squigs) Lol, I run this list, but with grimgor instead of shaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrExia Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Sadysaneto said: how did he take a sce and kept order draconis bls legal? Spearmen and Glade guard are battle line. The "Order Draconis BL" shows up as a reminder regardless of faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadysaneto Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, ZephyrExia said: Spearmen and Glade guard are battle line. The "Order Draconis BL" shows up as a reminder regardless of faction. ah, ok. TY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Out of general interest, was there a specific reason why the chaos (skyfire) armies didn't place too well? Many armies that were prepared to beat them, or just few of them at the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungrim Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, Imperial said: 9 Ironjawz (4 major victory, 1 lose vs Squigs) Apparently the list was (doesn't seem like much of a difference, but is!): Cabbage Megaboss Chanter Shaman 20 Ardboys 10 Ardboys 5 Brutes 6 Gruntas Ironfist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungrim Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Imperial said: Any info about Kharadron Overlords list? Couldn't tell you the exact list but it's basically: Admiral Khemist (x3 or x4) Arkanaut x 10 Arkanaut x10 Arkanaut x10 Skywardens x (lots) Endrinriggers x (lots) Ironclad x1 Not sure which port... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Out of curiosity because it is my army: Has anyone seen a list with a noteworthy amount of Seraphon in it? Something more than just a minimum Skink battleline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzaangor Management Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 @Aginor, Darren Watson placed fourth at SCGT with this list (taken from baddice.co.uk - http://baddice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SCGT_2017_Order.pdf) Kroak Astrolith Star Seer Tehenhauin Eternity Warden 10 Skinks Saurus Guard 9 Ripperdactyls Shadow Strike formation 100 Summoning pool, used for Balewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tzaangor Management said: @Aginor, Darren Watson placed fourth at SCGT with this list (taken from baddice.co.uk - http://baddice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SCGT_2017_Order.pdf) Kroak Astrolith Star Seer Tehenhauin Eternity Warden 10 Skinks Saurus Guard 9 Ripperdactyls Shadow Strike formation 100 Summoning pool, used for Balewind I know, he posts over at Lustria Online. Great guy and a cool list. Although I am pretty sure it only worked that well because of that specific meta at that tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHappyTime Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Dead_Ghost said: No idea on the actual forces/composition involved, but here's the top 40 by grand alliance. List is from the Face Hammer twitter account (Byron). Everyone saying Death needs help is 100% vindicated. There are 3 players around 18-21, so the best they can do is mid-table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said: Second place was Gary P with Kharadron Overlords with the drop ship and Endrinriggers trick. I'm not sure about third place but forth was Element Game's Byron with a mostly Aelf list (Dragon, Dragon Blades, Frosties and some Glade Guard shooting with a Stormcast Heraldor). I didn't get chance to follow much coverage but what I saw was a nice mixture of things and what seems to be a fantastic weekend. I'm gutted I couldn't make it! Not sure I agree with that. Don't think people were saying Tomb Kings were broken but some of their units were very cheap. Plus Russ (who won the masters), is an amazing player. People may have been more measured here but in other corners of the internet there were several people claiming that they were far, far too underpointed to the point of being unfixable and should just be scrapped. I'll readily agree that TK have some undercosted things, but Necropolis Knights aren't even undercosted compared to things like Kurnoth Hunters, Brutes, and Tzaangors (can back this up with math if you want). Edit: love the aelf list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I thought we'd see Aetherstrike be higher up with how much people are complaining about it Awesome to see a good mix. Hopefully GHB2017 will bring some buffs to Death and get them up there. Also happy to not see 3 Skyfire lists in the top tables haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Great to see the Aelves placing so high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummyofallbears Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 What was the sylvaneth list? The mention of Allarielle intrigues me, as my TAC sylvaneth list (in a competetive meta) includes Allarielle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Funny how all that broken skyfires shooting didn't do much this tournament, neither did kunnin ruk, same with that broken chaos hero sayl, the sylvaneth , the beastclaws raiders stornhorns etc. Almost as if people learn to counter play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofpaddsmar Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I really struggle to see why death dont do well at these events. They have one the best allegiance abilty, mournghouls and most banners replace casualties. My guess would be people not taking max unit sizes due to the time it takes to move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Arkiham said: Funny how all that broken skyfires shooting didn't do much this tournament, neither did kunnin ruk, same with that broken chaos hero sayl, the sylvaneth , the beastclaws raiders stornhorns etc. Almost as if people learn to counter play them I wonder this too, but I also wonder if these lists just weren't present as much at the tournament. I would love to know how many sayl, skyfire, rukk etc. lists there were. 5 hours ago, ageofpaddsmar said: I really struggle to see why death dont do well at these events. They have one the best allegiance abilty, mournghouls and most banners replace casualties. My guess would be people not taking max unit sizes due to the time it takes to move I think there are a couple of important factors at play: Just based on raw stats, most Death warscrolls are pretty mediocre. There are a few that stand out a bit, but other Grand Alliances almost universally have choices that are even better. Death does have among the most defensively efficient options, but they lack offensively efficient choices. People go nuts over the Mourngul but it's really not that good. I'd be more than happy to justify that assertion with a lot of math if you like. The math suggests that Death will likely play best as a horde army. Horde armies are very clunky to play in a timed tournament setting (as you pointed out). Death has basically no shooting, which means that it is incredibly vulnerable to force multiplier type heroes (think: aether khemists, bloodsecrators, megabosses and the like). Death has basically no force multipliers of its own. Settra is the only really powerful one. They do have heroes that provide modest buffs, but no extreme buff game like other factions have through either battalions or heroes. The power of Ruler of the Night is a double edged sword. On the one hand it's probably the best allegiance ability in the game. On the other it essentially forces you to make your general a unit champion to avoid losing your key ability immediately to any army with heavy shooting. This basically means forgoing any interesting command abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 14 hours ago, Aginor said: Out of curiosity because it is my army: Has anyone seen a list with a noteworthy amount of Seraphon in it? Something more than just a minimum Skink battleline? The 7th placed player had Seraphon. The list was in Twitter: Kroak Astrolith bearer Starpriest Starseer 3x10 Skinks Bastiladon 6 Ripperdactyls Shadowstrike warhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Anyone know if we'll be able to see all the armylists on baddice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deowag Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I was the ironjawz player who was on table 1 vs the squigs in the last game of the weekend =)My list was Allegiance: DestructionHeroesMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (520)- General- Command Trait : Ravager- Artefact : Talisman of ProtectionOrruk Megaboss (140)- Artefact : Battle BrewOrruk Warchanter (80)Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)Units20 x Orruk Ardboys (360)- 10 x Choppa or Smasha & Shields- 10 x Big Choppas10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)- 10 x Choppa or Smasha & Shields5 x Orruk Brutes (180)- 1 x Gore Choppas6 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (360)BattalionsIronfist (60)Total: 2000/ 2000Heroes: 4/6 Battlelines: 4 (3+) Behemoths: 1/4 Artillery: 0/4Sadly I lost in the final which bumped me down to 10th but it felt amazing getting to the top table with ironjawz =) I can't wait for the finals in October! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, Deowag said: I was the ironjawz player who was on table 1 vs the squigs in the last game of the weekend =) My list was Allegiance: Destruction Heroes Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (520) - General - Command Trait : Ravager - Artefact : Talisman of Protection Orruk Megaboss (140) - Artefact : Battle Brew Orruk Warchanter (80) Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120) Units 20 x Orruk Ardboys (360) - 10 x Choppa or Smasha & Shields - 10 x Big Choppas 10 x Orruk Ardboys (180) - 10 x Choppa or Smasha & Shields 5 x Orruk Brutes (180) - 1 x Gore Choppas 6 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (360) Battalions Ironfist (60) Total: 2000/ 2000 Heroes: 4/6 Battlelines: 4 (3+) Behemoths: 1/4 Artillery: 0/4 Sadly I lost in the final which bumped me down to 10th but it felt amazing getting to the top table with ironjawz =) I can't wait for the finals in October! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk How many wounds on average you save by shield on Ardboys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Death did as badly as they did even with old Tomb King points. Well done Deowag for getting up there with Ironjawz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deowag Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 How many wounds on average you save by shield on Ardboys?Eeerr no idea lol =) probs maybe 1 every 30 it felt like in some games haha But they did make a difference I feel. As I remember at some moments making clutch 6+ shield saves Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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