Melcar

Thanks for the replies... I'm glad to see people are generally open towards weird lists. I used to play in a fairly competitive Rules as Written setting, and while it was fun, I got fed up trying to keep up with GWs constant rules and point changes... Like every 6 month I would have to change my list and often this included mothballing units/ models which I had spent time and money on. Also, their general marketing thing of always letting the newest army being the strongest then nerfing it over the next year was somthing that meant that after about 12 month after battletome release it would simply be overmatched by the constant powercreep of new armies. Therefore I'm simply considering ignoring all that and just playing some models which I like...

Hi everyone So, ignoring that the following list is not pitched battle legal, how do you guys think it would do in the current meta? And would you allow a friend to play this list in friendly match ups?' Cheers Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz - Gittish Horde: Glogg's Megamob - Grand Strategy: Protect da Shrine! - Triumphs: Inspired Leaders Troggoth Hag (405) - General - Command Trait: Alpha Trogg - Artefact: Amulet of Destiny (Universal Artefact) - Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon Battleline Units 3 x Fellwater Troggoths (170) 3 x Fellwater Troggoths (170) 3 x Fellwater Troggoths (170) Behemoths Skitterstrand Arachnarok (180) Rogue Idol (430) Dread Maw (460) Total: 1985 / 2000 Reinforced Units: 0 / 4 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 96 Drops: 7

Hellow fellow gamers... So, this might be a stupid question, but I'm uncertain about the Wake of Fire ability. If I move my flamespyre phoenix and it crosses over multiple units, how many of them can I then apply the mortal wounds damage to in total? On the one hand the ability could be read as being applicable to a single unit only. On the other hand, it does not say how many times I can "pick 1 unit", which could then imply that multiple targets could be hit. So, I believe there is an argument to be made both ways. However, I wanted to know what is the accepted consensus on this... or perhaps if there are any FAQ or designers commentary that might clear this up. Thanks in advance Cheers!

So what you're saying is that resolving the attack does not include dealing damage? I guess I take resolve to mean dealing damage also... but that happens in allocation, which is a separate thing handles after resolvement? I that what you mean? I don't think I've actually ever played that way... I think we have allocated wounds after each weapon... Which seems more logical to me... probably why we have always played that way...

Ok, but the rules on the same page seems to specifically call out multiple weapons as being different. What I mean here is that is says, that multiple attack: "In order to resolve several attacks at once, all of the attacks must be made by models from the same unit, with the same type of weapon, and against the same target unit. If this is the case, make all of the hit rolls at the same time, then all of the wound rolls, and finally all of the save rolls." Would that not mean that between weapon types, you can heal? In your example, I would reason that specifically because its different weapons, you resolve the damage from one weapon type at a time? I can see how the same weapon, like if the unit only have one weapon, like skeleton warriors, but multiple wepons, like your example would seem to be resolved one weapon at a time?

Would you not be able to heal wounds from the first weapons when getting hit by the second weapon? By then, if we assume you took damage from the first weapons, then would your 6s not heal you then? I would normally allocate wounds after each weapon? Is that not the way it goes? EDIT: After looking some more the rules say: "Attacks are resolved one at a time using the following attack sequence" It would seem that attack #2 is healable... Basically you take one at a time... take one save at a time and I guess as soon as damage has been taken, the next save you take is able to heal the wound from previous attacks... right?

A followup question on the Jade Diadem: If I am uninjured, I roll lets say 6 saves, 3 goes through, I roll one 6. Does that then mean I take 3 dam or only 2 dam?

Indeed.. But I want the Blizzard -1 to wound bobble and the board wide healing from he Living City...

God ****** dammit! 🤬

The Diadem does indeed go off on a 6+, thus being modifiable. Hadn't thought about the rend tho... still pretty nice... I'm going to try it out for sure. Maybe its just nice on paper!... Thank you.

Thank you for your very clear answer. Probably the most well explained answer I've ever gotten. Thank you for that. Another question if I may: If my general - Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix - takes the "Ironoak Artisan" command trait, from Living City, and has his "Attuned to Magic" ability activated, and he wore the artifact "Jade Diadem", would it then be correct that my general would in fact heal 1 wound when he made a save roll of 4+? Cheers

Real quick: Does taking the "One with Fire and Ice" Command Trait make your general a wizard? As in, will the casting of a spell, through the means of this command, trait activate the "Attuned to Magic" ability of the Phoenixes? Cheers!

Hi friends I was just wondering if anyone had any leaks about like pointcosts, warscrolls or allegiance abilities? Or possible a release date? Cheers!

Not a single point reduction for Troggoth!

That is one true statement... I really like the part about the turds! Because if there is one thing that stinks to high heaven, its the Troggboss... But in all fairness, every single Troggoth model is overpriced at about 20% IMO! Problem for us might be, that we were not mentioned in the preview of GHB19 point reductions, but we'll know in a few days with leakes and all coming out. But an army wide 10% point reduction would still only give one unit more. Not enough to make any dent in the discrepancy between troggoth and FEC, Skaven, Slaaneth etc....