Incineroar87

It can go either way, most cases in the past have been with a battletome article revealing most of the new models of a new range with 1-2 new units never seen or discussed in the battletome previews and modern live video previews revealing everything. A few times White Dwarf and GW has spilled the beans too ahead of time too with potato cam pics of the last few new units. I really hope we can get a look at the new battletomes soon for the new art and lore.

Difference for the Mortach's is all three were all major special characters in the setting with an established background and history in the endtimes where as for the Orruks in AOS we don't have that anymore, we have big characters in Gordrakk riding a cabbage Wyvern, we have the new leader of the Kruleboys on that weird beast thing but Bonesplitterz don't seem to have an equivalent of a leader / special character in the setting or one on a big beast. The closest they had was the Wurrgog Prophet when he was a special character in fantasy. Iron Jawz Orruks are already associated with Wyverns as their big beast wouldn't make sense to give them another wyvern rider, I think Kruleboyz are likely to have their own weird wyvern like beast for themselves differentiate it from the Mawkrusha.

What are our winners after the update ? Stormcast seems quite decent now.

I rather like this tbh, Reverse Tides + King was always a solid option but it was annoying when we had to choose. I like that we can have both now. Very happy with this change!

I'm guessing new Stormcast and Orruk Warclan Battletomes release at the same time just like Stormcast and Nighthaunt did last edition? Hope we see a few new models for Orruks and a monster or two. Would be wicked to see Yndrasta bringing some Pegasus knight like units too.

I've never been a fan of Duradin/Dwarves on the tabletop always preferring the Elf races but I love the Duradin history and lore. I am keen to see how they will re-invent the wheel with Duradin to make them more interesting with this AOS soup-tome.

How many total Kits/Units are we expecting for the KruleBoys? At current they have 7 + the 2 other revealed ones which is almost more than Ironjaws and Bonesplitters have which sit at 10-11 each. Recon we might have 12-15 + or less? At the very least, I just wanna see some super elite infantry and some wicked beast cavalry + a huge solo monster. If we are lucky I'd love to see a special character leading the army too.

Will Deepkin still be able to field lots of eels with Coherency? Guessing we have to take MSU eels and sharks which most seemed to be doing anyway.

I'd much rather take Evocators tbh, but I'll wait for the full warscroll before giving my final judgement. I'm curious what other utilities they can bring and what points value they are at. If they are within Evocator range and this is all they offer damage wise, there's little reason to bring Annihilators. More importantly as a Ironjaw's player, I wanna see the new Orruk's and what specialties they bring to the table. Orruk's Warclan side, if they can patch up the Brute's warscroll a bit and their points if need be, that's all I need to be happy.

Whether they take away Physical or Digital, taking away options in general is never a good thing especially when it alienates the fanbase disconnecting them. I'd be similarly annoyed if they removed physical books entirely as I struggle to read books on a screen.

I'm guessing the 3.0 starter box will have small offerings as an introduction for both armies and the actual meaty release will be when later on when the full model range/battletome release later unless they go side by side at launch with the box. I can't imagine they will reveal the entire new model line for both armies just the box reveal.

Looks like bin writer strikes again from what I've seen and heard. I don't understand how they can make Morathi and Teclis super powerful and cost effective but others are written in the opposite way, the inconsistency and inbalance is concerning because it instantly kills any viability or purpose.

Saw the Kroak warscroll on twitter earlier as well. I really hope they do justice to Alarielle's new warscroll though. Plz just make her good lol

Is Grungni considered one of the major gods or is he a semi/minor deity ?

I adore the Kragnos model and the flavorful warscroll, but don't see any reason why you'd take him over Gordrakk/Megaboss on Maw-krusha unless Kragnos is less than 540 points. If he's 600-700+I suppose only non Orruk Destruction armies would find any incentive in taking him. Maybe the new Orruk Warclans equivalent battletome will give him some additional bonus's. Wonder if he's the leader of these new Orruks or if there's a new special character of some kind leading them. I would love a magic Orruk special hero character being in charge of the new Orruk faction just for something different.