Ekrund Oath Splitters

£47.50 for 30 Orc Boyz isn't exactly a discount compared to their old cost during 8th edition, they are still artificially inflated to match modern GW cost of their product (like how land raider is now £67.50). The discount is non consequential when the cost is already increased for sculpts designed in what 6th ed?

I used to LOVE old fantasy and it's setting and I mean love. Had all the lizardmen/lustria related novels even if it was Thanquols perspective, had massive themed armies; red crested skins of Tehenhauin, Lustrian Jungle Hunter empire, Savage Orcs of the badlands. But I will never go back to ToW because simply put the models just aren't up to date with the modern age. Nostalgia only goes so far, whyd I pick up Orcs and Goblins when Ironjawz blow them out of the water in design and not only that, cost. Paying modern day prices for sculpts from 6th ed fantasy doesn't tickle my loins to run and play the game even though I have fond memories of The Old World as a kid and young adult. The ship has sailed to the golden realms of updated sculpts and scale. My beastmen will most likely stay in a box in the garage until the day I throw them out or die of old age. I have no incentive to play ToW, not to mention no one actually plays it in my county when AoS and 40k are vastly more accessible to get a game in.

I agree Grungnisson. Not showing emotions is inhuman and equally immature and people shouldn't be told to bottle it up because they are over reacting or have no self control. The hobby is built with strong memories and passion for the world(s) we love to be part of, factor in money and most importantly time, anger and sadness is the just emotion to feel. People can still be angry, vent and still be in control. We aren't rage punching monitors and flipping tables, we are voicing our hurt and displeasure, a natural response.

I'd love to see beastmen reimagined for AoS rather than sent to slaughtered. Look how Ironjawz, Kruleboyz, Fyrslayers and Kharadrons exist whilst also having an Old World counterpart. Maybe in 3 years time we will see a return of the Beasts of Chaos, but not how they once were, like with a accursed cultist/spawndom flair across the range, rather than goat with axe.

I think you misunderstand me, I'm not worried about gloomspite as an army getting neck snapped, I'm on about them outright selling ToW miniatures with no assurance that they will get a replacement kit for AoS. Little timmy could buy that spiderfang army 1 week from their new battletome to realise "hey where are the spiders? Whys it only trolls and goblins?!" Like wise when/if the gobbos get replaced what certainty is shootas staying? We simple don't irregardless if GSG gets the luck and love of the badmoon.

My issue is, they will continue to sell these old world sculpts for the like of Gits, Cities, Sylvaneth up until they are elbow dropped with no guarantee they'll be replaced. They could straight up grab longbeards by the grognards and throw them into the closest purple sun with no kit to replace them, but they'll sell them to you a week beforehand.

If you only own that 1 army, it's fairly reasonable. I know loads of people who only play space marines or sylvaneth who don't want another army out of either cost/looks/gameplay design. These people have every right to leave the game, I would too if my only army was Beastmen. This kind of mass army squatting reduces the trust in the buyer with GW. Not everyone is a 20 year old veteran, a lot of players are either 1 or 2 editions in so didn't even have to experience previous army culls. It's a reasonable response for people who's money and time was on the table.

Whyd I do that when I have 60 darkoath savagers? Soon to be a whole darkoath army come DB6. Use X as Y doesn't work when you already have Y. It's like when they said "Oh Use looted wagons as battlewagons!" I already have 6 built and painted legit battlewagons.... not all warcry bands are even the same size so you'll still have models left over or models too few or simply on the wrong bases entirely. Its a flawed system to preach.

The thing is they are safe up until their battletome, GW will continually sell them to you up into that date with no warning. Some poor ****** out there just bought Beasts this weekend for sure before this announcement was even on his doorstep (not everyone reads forums or reddit). It's ****** all round for the community and its weirder yet when beasts have such lore dedication in the books, no one in chaos are like them at all and they were pretty important in broken realms too. We all knew it would happen (that frequent these sites), it's still a sack punch from orbit regardless.

What happens to gloomspite? How can Stabbas/Shootas, spiderfang/araknoroks, aleguzzler gargants exist in the AoS when they are also part of legal non legends ToW Orcs and Goblins. It's weird double standards throwing beastmen to ToW but not other ToW legal models. Savage orcs get the worst of it, they aren't even an army in legends or core ToW. It's a 1 in 1000pt upgrade for an Orc unit to get warpaint and frenzy....

I bought 3 units of Spire Tyrants to use with my Slaves to Darkness as they were the only warband that fit in with the look of the army, the new girl Abraxia is literally a Spire Tyrant who clawed her way up the pits of varanspire. It feels backwards them going vs the other warcry sets who didn't really gel with the StD range or core lore. My beastmen going is literally upsetting. I don't want to play The Old World. Why are Dwarves and Dyrads safe but Beastmen get karate chopped if its to do with ToW sales data. How do we know those units are safe when they can be sold and dropped on a moments notice come their battletome. It's just scummy in every way.

Beasts of Chaos would most likely get a range refresh/redesign in 4th edition. Vampire Counts and Soulblight both exist as separate armies even if they share some common units I.e: graveguard, coven thrones, corpsecarts, necromancers, vampire on zombie dragon. Beastmen have seen some love in new sculpts, from Fellgors in 40k to the underworlds set, slaan/tzangors and Beastlord in AoS. They could easily be lined up for a Nercon/Nid style army overhaul after Skaven. We will see in a few months time what happens to Cloven Ones but I don't think they'll get shunted into legends. They deserve better.

think that spook has a big two handed mace/brazier thats emitting some ghostly fumes as its being swung, could be tied to Kurdoss in someway like his crossbowmen.

I don't think what he is riding is part of the kroot subspecies. Doesn't have a stumpy tail, quills or an overbite beak. Most likely some exotic Xenos Lizard-dog mount. We have already seen the rumour engine for its tail, its reptilian like a kroxigor and has a bunch of boney protrusions. I think we might still get a krootox as we still have the big kroot hand rumour engine and the twinlinked krootgun. But whatever these are, they ain't knarlocs and they ain't kroot.

Yeaaaaah I doubt they'll be 180. Monsters are always overpriced, ghorgons, cygors, soul grinders, stegadons of all types. Its most likely in the 200 range. It won't be priced like a man crusher or slaughterbrute.