Slayerofmen

They do in fact play test externally for 40k that's why a large amount of change that comes to the game are so similar to the way the US events handle events and adapt the game a good chunk of their play testers are there. The core foundation of 9th was built on ITC scoring principals

Currently not playing 3rd but this just sounds like you want to play old warhammer, you are describing a rank and flank game

The core game systems themselves, lend themselves to a more analogue "just win not fat" style of play V old editions Was the wizarding hat on a goblin warboss a good idea? No... was the outcome hilarious....always. no days items aren't funny bad they are either used or just so bad they aren't even funny bad. Which comes down to how the games themselves work

From at least a personal point of view matched play is always just the fastest way to "get a game" whether the outcome of the game itself feels like I got a game that's up for debate. Narrative us always something I want to do but never get to. From a game design standpoint it makes a lot more sense to build the game to match play then just remind people that they don't NEED points and army structure to play the game, they did this in 6,7,8 fantasy and I actually played a heap if narrative in those days. AoS1 was great for some maybe many but it is a telling factor that they have put so much effort into putting those structures in that maybe a no structure format doesn't suit the masses.

The game needs a Swedish comp like old times, you want to take broken BS you can but there is a penalty

Barring having to pay an extra 100 dollars after the exchange rate from UK to aud to buy a mega giant my position is less about the price and more and the book feeling lacklustre, AoS has too many examples already of books coming out with what id argue is bare minimum for them. It should have hit with more unit choices

Coming from the view of AUD pricing its just shy of 1000 dollars to start the aemy if you take three big bois and there is still no battle line in there, now do other armies end up costing that much? Sure but you can at least play a smaller game or build up the force i just don't feel you can do that with SoB. Imagine walking into a GW picking up the book thinking its dope getting psyched then turning around to buy a model for it. Its a far cry from buying a box of snake ladies or some skeletons

Id like to see the old vampire characters given those titles would be really cool. And can we take a minute to fully appreciate how good that kemmler model looks even though its older then a lot of the people that play this game now by about 5 years

Upset that it took ten pages for someone to reference the shawshank redemption. My only real issue with AoS outside of some glaring rules issues is that I can't connect to any of the characters they created for it, nothing I read makes me want to go find out more. In contrast to that when I read my first snippet about nagash I went and found out everything I could and followed it all the way through

Ignoring the massive threadomancy that question might be better placed over in the gloomspite thread

Very underwhelmed by some of the changes re points especially

Even if you did it only matters if its going to come down to victory points, which it wont

It is not

Could be the campaign they finish off before jumping into an AoS campaign

You elect the model then if failed you have to remove that one