Kimbo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 So...Just some quick questions. Im just starting my khorne daemons army and is curious to what you guys think of the skull cannon in the blades of khorne book? And have you tried the new cannon formation? Was is good? Even If you have not tried it...you think it looks good? Cheers! kimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharen Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I think the formation certainly makes Skull Cannons more viable than they were before. The problem I find with it is that it's sort of an all or nothing affair with that battalion due to how costly Skull Cannons are in points. A maxed out battalion of it though could quite possibly be wiping out every one of your opponents heroes before they get a chance to blink. Taking only 3 in the battalion though and I think it just doesn't hold up given the cost per cannon and the fact that they may not be able to all shoot in the hero phase. But sure, I think it looks to be quite a powerful formation for an alpha strike of artillery provided you go all in with it, which is something we didn't have before with Khorne. Bloodthrone Bloodsecrator 8x Skull Cannons 3x10 Bloodreavers Gorethunder Cohort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 cannons is 540 points, shooting in your hero phase and again in the shooting phase... i dunno.. could be good. a group of 3 with the throne, nice distraction. they are decent in combat so you cant just send trash good range on them. you're probably better off using them in the SKullseeker host than gorethunder, i feel that battalions fits two roles, gap filler and major army ( 4k+ ) type game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilby Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 60 points for the battalion and a blood throne that takes up a leader slot and is generally seen as a bit meh to get D3 extra shots as long at the bloodthrone is alive and the cannons are near it... given that cannons are already too expensive, especially if you compare them to something like warp lightning cannons, I'd say it is of limited use compared to other options we got. If the bloodthrone had a buff that amped the cannons a bit more then I'd say it might be worth thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 But if luck and I'm trying a skullseekers tommoro Bloodthirster Of Insensate Rage (280) Bloodmaster, Herald of Khorne (80) Skullmaster, Herald of Khorne (100) 3 x Bloodcrushers (160) 3 x Bloodcrushers (160) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) Skullseeker Host (40) Murderhost (20) 2000 I use the rage a lot anyways andni love crushers so it's win win I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Thank you for all The feedback! If you where to use a 2k list with mono daemon...how would you play it? I got a Nice list from Slide in another post but i like to have options.... The list should: - work in a competitive environment - been tested (would be great) - thank you for your time...really means alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 One more thing, you all seem to not like the cannon formation. i just watched The Ninth Realm, and they seem to REALLY like the cannon formation. is it that bad? i get so mixed feelings from everywhere i want to use it ..but not if its bad you know..... The Ninth Realm #38 Blades of khorne: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The one with the army attached is far better, it does more for your army and does the same affect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharen Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kimbo said: One more thing, you all seem to not like the cannon formation. It's not that I don't like it. I do. I just feel it works best at its max, and then you're in it for quite a bit. At its minimum of 3 it can be pretty good if you're set on using Skull Cannons in your list anyhow. This is really an oddball area for Khorne though as it's essentially a Khorne Gunline list so yeah, it's not going to get the greatest reception I imagine from people who are used to playing a melee Khorne list. On the other hand... your opponent may never see it coming. I mean really, 8 skull cannons is going to scare the ****** out of someone when you put them on the table I imagine because the potential damage they COULD put out is very very scary in that battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Arkiham said: The one with the army attached is far better, it does more for your army and does the same affect Whitch do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jharen said: It's not that I don't like it. I do. I just feel it works best at its max, and then you're in it for quite a bit. At its minimum of 3 it can be pretty good if you're set on using Skull Cannons in your list anyhow. This is really an oddball area for Khorne though as it's essentially a Khorne Gunline list so yeah, it's not going to get the greatest reception I imagine from people who are used to playing a melee Khorne list. On the other hand... your opponent may never see it coming. I mean really, 8 skull cannons is going to scare the ****** out of someone when you put them on the table I imagine because the potential damage they COULD put out is very very scary in that battalion. Haha yeah. But i would like to use only 3 so its not all my army. It aint that bad i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Whitch do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Whitch do you mean? Allows you to not only shoot twice, but charge and attack, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Cannon Battalion is cool but I think that I can generally say that if someone wants to shoot their opponents to smithereens that Khorne isn't the most usual pick up. As I feel many are drawn to that army for rock hard melee and less shooting. However without doubt it adds some great ranged support which by itself is very worthy to consider. I do think that the damage output of the Skullcannon is rather random but still not bad if your capable to at least draw out the average rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I agree if your running the skullcannon formation you need to run all 8 to make it worthwhile. Would be a lot of fun but that's quite an investment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmdebil Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 just thought that the Bloodmaster in the Skullseeker Battalion must just wrong written ..... should be an skullmaster , to make the Bloodcrusher Battleline :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBS Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Khorne is a ****** for using cannons. Man up and use an axe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaintxu Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, VBS said: Khorne is a ****** for using cannons. Man up and use an axe! That is extremely useful feedback isn't it? Good job. thing about the battalion is that paying for a throne and the battalion for maybe one shot is not worth it. It is good if you take 8 but then it's almost your whole army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 3 hours ago, VBS said: Khorne is a ****** for using cannons. Man up and use an axe! Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Trying my skullseekers today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 2 games 2 wins was a great formation to run, all the bits of it were good skull cannons got a passing grade, though with 5 shots i did a total of 4 wounds to 1 target... Then the last shot did 4... the skull cannon charged said unit... did 4 damage with a crimson crown buff with its maw took a shot across the table and too the last wound of a magmadroth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 7 hours ago, backslide said: Trying my skullseekers today ? What was in this list exactley? ? looks cool! Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Kimbo said: What was in this list exactley? ? looks cool! Thank you!! Bloodthirster Of Insensate Rage (280) Forgeworld samus model Bloodmaster, Herald of Khorne (80) Skullmaster, Herald of Khorne (100) 3 x Bloodcrushers (160) 3 x Bloodcrushers (160) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 20 x Bloodletters (200) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) 1 x Skull Cannons (180) Skullseeker Host (40) Murderhost (20) 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Lovely...I will build this list as my starter list! Thank you all so much for the feedback, means alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmdebil Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 nice list , nice army .... just an question : In my Khorne Book says that u need an Bloodmaster not an skullmaster of Khorne for the Skullseeker Host`? that means u need an total of 2 Bloodmasters for running the 2 battalions ?( 1 for skullseeker 1 for murderhost ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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