MOMUS Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If you take multiple banners the spirit of the white dwarf will snap your models apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gottog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Nico said: FAQs confirm you can take multiple banners. A different FAQ caps Netters at the amount in the box. Thx :). Could you please point out which FAQ tells about banners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurio Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I like it that you can use multiple banners, what's the problem with doing so if it's legal and every faction can use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I like multiple banners especially in large units it looks good, the same with musicians . I also think that units with multiple banners listed have been designed with this in mind and it may have been taken into account for their points in Matched play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Well for starters i would had liked to know that before i built my bloodreavers. And unrestricted banners can go to really silly gamey situations. I mean, why would i have on my blood reavers regular reavers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Page 5 of the Chaos FAQ - one of the final answers re Plague Monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 13 hours ago, gottog said: Killax, why do you put the Gore-drenched Icon and Bloodsoaked Banner into a Bloodletters unit in your latest lists here? Can you use them both in one unit? Yes you can use both. Its quite common you can have multiple, but sometimes this doesnt do anything more, but here it does. Its also incorporated in units this time around I feel. 10 letters are 110 and using many 10 letter units does increase Banner effects and Blood Tithe point options. So I see this as a fair part of their cost too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshikai Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Hey there, this Thread has been a great Read for me and I thought I would ask for some advice. I am working on my first 1000 Points of Khorne and I am not sure which Direction to take. I am not a Tournamentplayer but like my List to be decent,,,still Aesthetics , Lore and feel are the most important to me. And I am not the biggest fan of Spamming Units, simply because I like to assemble and paint different Miniatures. Of course I like to win and bash heads in as much as the next Guy . List 1: Mighty Lord of Khorne Bloodsecrator 30 Bloodletters 10 Bloodwarriors 5 Skullreapers Korgorath 990 Points Total I feel like even without a Loci, that Unit of Bloodletters can do a lot of work...but to be honest somehow I am not feeling this List. List 2: Mighty Lord of Khorne Bloodsecrator Bloodstoker 20 Blood Reavers 10 Bloodwarriors 5 Skullreapers Korgorath Goreblade Warband? 1000 Points Total I have used the Goreblade in the Past and really liked it for small Point Levels, but somehow its not in the Scrollbuilder anymore, Not sure if this would still be legal. List 3: Mighty Lord of Khorne Bloodsecrator 20 Blood Reavers 10 Bloodwarriors 5 Chaos Warriors (MoK) 5 Skullreapers Korgorath Chaos Spawn (Allies) 1000 Points Total I really love that you can take Warriors at 5 Models now. I have seen Liberators do some decent work and Warriors are even better in my Eyes . Maybe the Guys could do a good Job protecting my Backline/Objectives and/or the Bloodsecrator. The Spawn is in because Ihad 50 points left over ...I would love if they would bring the Option to mark them as they are iconic to all of Chaos in my eyes. Limiting them to Tzeentch makes no sense at all. But maybe even as an allied modell it can be a nuisance. I would like to keep Bloodwarriors and Skullreapers in as those Miniatures are the Main Reasons I was drawn into AOS, otherwise I have pretty much everything in the Range availlable. The Amount of Boxes o choose from makes it rather easy to collect Khorne without paying the full Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOMUS Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 @Oshikai I would go with list two and remove the battalion for another unit or two. 30 bloodletters would destroy anyone's enthusiasm for painting and the other list contains units that you can branch out into once you got the basics down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshikai Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 @MOMUS Thank you kindly for your Reply :). Yeah, I have those Bloodletters sitting on my Desk and I can`t bring myself to touch them right now, never been the biggest Fan of those Sculpts. I was leaning towards List 2 as well . But right now I am actually considering to drop that Mighty Lord of Khorne and replace him with an Aspiring Deathbringer (100). I like the Lord, but its a lot of Points tied up in a single Miniature at 1000 Point Level, on the other Hand he hurts more than the Deathbringer, allthough the Command Trait of the Deathbringer is Gold. Dropping the lord and the Goreblade Warband would net me 100 Points - Add 5 Warriors with Shield - Add 5 Bloodwarriors - Another Korgorath - A Slaughterpriest, I know he could easily blast himself apart, but he would give me some interesting Tools to play with - More Reavers/ Marauders---allthough I would prefer not at the moment...just to keep some sanity - Anything else that would come to mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phizzco Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Aren't Slaughter priests spells unique and thus can't be stacked? I don't think that makes a lot of sense that they can be duplicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Funny that i play list 2 since i started playing, and i am actually quite comfy about it, but when i finally end up upgrading (i prefer to play one list over and over to get the hang out of units in that setup), i will go by one of these options : - Drop skullreapers - Add wrathmongers - Add 20 bloodreavers (+100) - Drop might lord of khorne and battallion (-200) - Add aspiring deathbringer (+100) Or: Aspiring deathbringer Bloodsecrator 40 bloodreavers 10 Bloodwarriors 5 Wrathmongers 5 Skullreapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, phizzco said: Aren't Slaughter priests spells unique and thus can't be stacked? I don't think that makes a lot of sense that they can be duplicated. As far as I can tell there is nothing in the rules saying they can't be duplicated or that the effects can't stack. This ultimately is what allows for 30 man units of bloodletters to do mortal wounds on 2+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman84 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just wondering if I am forced to take Korghos Khul over a Vanilla MLoK in the Goretide Battalion? The way I see it is I am forking out another 60pts for an inferior Warscroll as KK cannot take Artifacts or Command Traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just a question I had. Is Khul the same model as MLOK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman84 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Yep. Identical model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phizzco Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, Darksteve said: As far as I can tell there is nothing in the rules saying they can't be duplicated or that the effects can't stack. This ultimately is what allows for 30 man units of bloodletters to do mortal wounds on 2+ I feel like... I wouldn't allow that lol. Just like I wouldn't allow stacking mystic shield. Just feelsbadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman84 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, jazman84 said: Just wondering if I am forced to take Korghos Khul over a Vanilla MLoK in the Goretide Battalion? The way I see it is I am forking out another 60pts for an inferior Warscroll as KK cannot take Artifacts or Command Traits. I believe I have found a workaround in Azyr. If I select my Allegiance and Allegiance Abilities as Khorne I can pick up Goretide Battalion and MLoK, yet KK is not available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksteve Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, phizzco said: I feel like... I wouldn't allow that lol. Just like I wouldn't allow stacking mystic shield. Just feelsbadman I mean Mystic shield just can't be cast multiple times, at least in matched play. That being said if you're playing for fun or if you are a TO then you can choose to play things however you want. In my experience it is not terribly overpowered or anything. If stacking the effect of the prayer bothers you I understand that, but against what else is out there from other armies I don't think it comes close to the top of the power curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOMUS Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 6 hours ago, phizzco said: I feel like... I wouldn't allow that lol. Just like I wouldn't allow stacking mystic shield. Just feelsbadman But would you allow multiple banners in a unit? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 7 hours ago, jazman84 said: Just wondering if I am forced to take Korghos Khul over a Vanilla MLoK in the Goretide Battalion? The way I see it is I am forking out another 60pts for an inferior Warscroll as KK cannot take Artifacts or Command Traits. GW have changed Khul's warscroll so that he isn't compulsory for running The Goretide. However if you were running The Goretide and included Khul and another Mighty Lord then you would have to use Khul for the battalion (i.e. you couldn't use the random Mighty Lord). The Goretide is also really expensive to run now points wise, I always enjoyed running it with it's old points values but find you actually benefit more from some Skullcrushers 7 hours ago, phizzco said: I feel like... I wouldn't allow that lol. Just like I wouldn't allow stacking mystic shield. Just feelsbadman Perfectly legit to stack prayers at the moment. Mystic Shield you can't if playing matched play as you can only cast it once - but there's no reason you couldn't stack it otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I was wondering what you meant by increased their cost, and now i checked the warscroll builder. Ouch. Also, silly question. What constitutes a spell for stuff like the brazen rune ? Anything (like blood players) or just spells spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bueno Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 8 hours ago, phizzco said: I feel like... I wouldn't allow that lol. Just like I wouldn't allow stacking mystic shield. Just feelsbadman It's worth bearing in mind that its not just us that can stack prayers, any other army with prayers i.e. Stormcast can use the same prayer multiple times and on the same unit if they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just a quick question, Tournament is coming and the points are 1200 (weird i know), Blade of Khorne is one of my options. What would you rather play between : Daemon Prince of Khorne (160)- Trait: Immense Power - Artefact: Deathdealer Bloodsecrator (120)Slaughterpriest (100)- Blood Blessing: Bronzed FleshSlaughterpriest (100)- Blood Blessing: Bronzed Flesh10 x Blood Warriors (200)10 x Blood Warriors (200)20 x Bloodreavers (140)Gore Pilgrims (180) And : Aspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer (100)Bloodsecrator (120)Bloodstoker (80)10 x Blood Warriors (200)10 x Blood Warriors (200)20 x Bloodreavers (140)5 x Skullreapers (180)5 x Skullreapers (180) I know it might be suicidal to go bloodletterless and BoK in such low point games. Bok lack cheese at that range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I like the second list more though as you said one big unit of Bloodletters is ideal. Also would go split Wrathmongers and Skullreapers now they are same cost. 20 Bloodreavers and 1 Bloodsecrator are much more difficult to optimize. So dropping 20 reavers is not a strange plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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