TheOtherJosh Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'm about to start a Path to Glory campaign ... ...Though, I'd rather start with a hero that gives me more followers, but since I feel a LoC is great late game and there is no way of acquiring or later I feel I should start with him. So... you have a 1 in 11 chance of loosing your Champion and having to choose a new Champion on the Champion rewards table ...Don't become too attached. It only makes it harder when they have to go ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Olincay said: You can't go over the 2 great blades per 5 models tho right? unless you're doing it for aesthetic purposes. Ah. No, I just replaced some of the existing greatblades because they made the units look a little samey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 So skyfires are 200pts now. Anyone else see/hear about other changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutrotSpume Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Acolytes stay the same 40pts discount when maxed out... so basically unless Pink Horrors go up they are still rubbish! Burning Chariot up to 180pts, exalted flamer and Flamers stay the same. So Tzeentch lists will probably stay the same except for having to squeeze a character out to pay for skyfire increase. Seems to me like GHB2 hasn't changed enough points wise, across all armies, to really effect anything significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Acolytes aren't discounted - I thought they went down to 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratso Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What was the final points upgrade for skyfyres, 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratso Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Awesome, thanks. Random question as I assume someone has a copy of GHB2, I need to know if the hell canon was taken out of compendium. App has it now under Monsters of Chaos, keen to know if t made into the new book and if it is still 300pts. Potential tzeentch allies material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutrotSpume Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well looks like the points I mentioned were completely wrong! Happy days Acolytes 100pts and 360 for 40! Still not points for enlitened on foot which just seems lazy, also Gaunt summoner with or without familiars is 120pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Interesting that the Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch is now identical both without Familiars, with Familiars, and on Disc without Familiars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misthv Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So What Allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Also odd. The Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot lists a star... but the points are identical to the DoT book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 20 hours ago, GutrotSpume said: Well looks like the points I mentioned were completely wrong! Happy days Acolytes 100pts and 360 for 40! Still not points for enlitened on foot which just seems lazy, also Gaunt summoner with or without familiars is 120pts. What's the source of this? Is it 100% legit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What's the source of this? Is it 100% legit?It's a pretty reasonable looking fake if it's not.But, all of the other points that we've seen have come out of a French language version, and this doesn't seem any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, TheOtherJosh said: Interesting that the Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch is now identical both without Familiars, with Familiars, and on Disc without Familiars. I suspect they are now all the same spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, TheOtherJosh said: Also odd. The Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot lists a star... but the points are identical to the DoT book. Likely rule changes. Every unit with a star has been changed apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlemania Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Skyfires for 200 and Shaman for 160 (!) are u kiddn?! Archaon still 700 this is just stupid. I want to build Tzeentch list with Archaon but now its gonna be harder than before so sad news.Wysłane z iPhone za pomocą Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 [mention=7725]Battlemania[/mention] Yes this will change the meta. You're likely looking at larger armies to properly pull him in. (Something closer to 2500 points.) The points changes are painful if that was what your list was based around, but on the positive side the change in the entire meta will affect everyone. And my understanding is that units that were "auto-pick-this-unit" now will require more thought on how they should fit in. And we're likely to see less "Skyfire-spam" lists. And more variety. (Which may mean fewer complaints about Change.) What do you think would be a solid list at 2500 for Tzeentch and Archaon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well, my Hosts Duplicitous 2k list will still work, just need to drop Changehost as the second Battalion. Never really used it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlemania Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 [mention=7725]Battlemania[/mention] Yes this will change the meta. You're likely looking at larger armies to properly pull him in. (Something closer to 2500 points.) What do you think would be a solid list at 2500 for Tzeentch and Archaon?The problem is that I wanted to make semi-competetive list for tournaments, which are for 2000 battlehost limit. I bought Archaon and LoC 1,5 month before GH2017. Now Im pretty pissed-off. Mainly on myself. Why I didnt wait. I love big Archaon model, I really like LoC, I could bring 6 skyfires and 1 Shaman for proper list. But now...ohh maan. This is bad for me. I dont know what list will be suitable for now, even for 2500 pts. Im just sad. Wysłane z iPhone za pomocą Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tres Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well, my Hosts Duplicitous 2k list will still work, just need to drop Changehost as the second Battalion. Never really used it anyway. Doesn't the host duplicitous battalion require the changehost to work? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misthv Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, 5kaven5lave said: Well, my Hosts Duplicitous 2k list will still work, just need to drop Changehost as the second Battalion. Never really used it anyway. Please post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well, my Hosts Duplicitous 2k list will still work, just need to drop Changehost as the second Battalion. Never really used it anyway. The only hard Requirements for Host Duplicitous were:1 LoC or Overseers Fate Twisters1 ChangehostOptional:0-8 additional warscroll battalionsAny additional number of Tzeentch DaemonsAre you running two Changehosts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Theres no way you can run 2 changhosts unless your loading up with nothing but brimstones...thats 3 LoC right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 All battalions across every faction bot a huuuuge price jump for the most part. Tzaangors didnt go down which sucks. The price discount on Acolytes is a lie consider the battations that make them even partially effective at least doubled in price..so theres that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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