Chris Tomlin Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Morning all, Here is the new thread for discussing Dispossessed. With the imminent release of AoS 2 (and a lot of the info already being out there), now is the time for us to start afresh on TGA. Moving forward, this will be the main thread to chat about and discuss Dispossessed in the new edition. I still wholly encourage people to keep their own threads/army blogs within this sub forum and I also think those are a great place to share some photos as I know not everyone frequents the Painting & Modelling section (like me!). But this thread is purely for discussion around the faction, things such as (but not limited to) tactics and list building etc. You all know the drill, we've been doing it on this forum since inception! For newer players, I would say the older thread could still be worth perusal (especially as it's one of the shorter ones!) and whilst it is now locked for further replies, you can find it here - http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/11151-lets-chat-dispossessed/ Really excited to see what we can come up with as a community and I look forward to reading all your ideas and thoughts. Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Here we go! In the old topic I posted a report of some early testing of the new edition with what I called an "antimagic" list. Should be interesting to post it: 120 Warden King 140 Knight-incantor 100 Runelord 100 Runelord 260 Steam Tank 200 Longbeards x20 420 Hammerers x30 280 Ironbreakers x20 360 Irondrakes x20 20 Malevolent Maelstrom 2000 With that in mind and the weight of the command point system i decided to try a list able to begin the game with 1 command point; I'm going to try this list in my next game and post the result, as i did with the first one, to brainstorm some ideas! 120 Warden King 100 Runelord 100 Runelord 80 Grimwrath Beeserker 160 Warriors x20 200 Longbeards x20 420 Hammerers x30 140 Ironbreakers x10 360 Irondrakes x20 260 Steam tank --1940 Again, sorry for my bad spelling: english is not my first lenguage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Reposting this lovely piece of acknowledgement from the Hammerhal Herald last week: @FuruzzoloI still think the Chronomantic Cogs are essential on an allied wizard. Really hoping Runelords (and other priests of course!) get errata'd warscrolls allowing them to dispel endless spells in their own hero phase! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hey everyone! Dispossessed are looking quite nice in this new edition, I have high hopes for them and I plan on restarting my old dwarf army after this summer, once I start being able to afford minis again Anyways, I thought I'd start this thread with a question to put things in perspective: What do you guys think will be the golden standard as far as allies go? There are lots of options for us, but I feel for now a wizard might be mandatory, if nothing else because local metas will more than likely run endless spells we won't be able to touch without the Incantor. Having said that, I feel a cannon is always cool, so maybe a good combination of allies could be a Incantor + a cannon and a lord ordinator/engineer? Steam tanks look good too, and cost the same than a cannon+ordinator, so that's a valid choice too! As far as armies go, testing will be needed, and I'm looking forward to seeing any contributions people make in the future. Likewise, when I finally get to start my forces, I'll start posting my own experiences too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Double Misfire said: I still think the Chronomantic Cogs are essential on an allied wizard. This could be good! We need to check some more Stormcast wizard, the Lord Exorcist looks good. 54 minutes ago, smucreo said: What do you guys think will be the golden standard as far as allies go? Wizards are good, they give us options, i guess. Steam tank or other artilleries but not the Ordinator, we cannot waste 140 points on one or two pieces of artillery. I like the Grimwrath berserker and i keep checking the Fulminator (or other dracoth knights) warscroll....so tempting. ?. Celestant prime is now overprices, Brokk Grungsson is way cheaper and has similar stats. P.s. Skywardens and Endrinriggers are always good ones, i think. Edited June 26, 2018 by Furuzzolo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, smucreo said: What do you guys think will be the golden standard as far as allies go? There are lots of options for us, but I feel for now a wizard might be mandatory, if nothing else because local metas will more than likely run endless spells we won't be able to touch without the Incantor. Having said that, I feel a cannon is always cool, so maybe a good combination of allies could be a Incantor + a cannon and a lord ordinator/engineer? Steam tanks look good too, and cost the same than a cannon+ordinator, so that's a valid choice too! Fast stuff to hop on objectives and some kind of Stormcast wzard to cast Chronomatic Cogs, effectively making competitive Dispossessed Dwarfs with benefits. Aetherwings have dropped in points in the new GHB, meaning you could easily run five units of three at 2k to hop on objectives and hold up enemy units while you wait for your newly minted elite battleline to catch up and set up camp, with points left over for an allied wizard.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Chris Tomlin said: For newer players, I would say the older thread could still be worth perusal (especially as it's one of the shorter ones!) That's a grudging. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I feel ashamed for missing the obvious pun with that phrase as well haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Double Misfire said: Fast stuff to hop on objectives and some kind of Stormcast wzard to cast Chronomatic Cogs, effectively making competitive Dispossessed Dwarfs with benefits. Aetherwings have dropped in points in the new GHB, meaning you could easily run five units of three at 2k to hop on objectives and hold up enemy units while you wait for your newly minted elite battleline to catch up and set up camp, with points left over for an allied wizard.??? The problem with the birds is that they aren't sold separately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, smucreo said: The problem with the birds is that they aren't sold separately Sell the Vanguard-Raptors on at a profit to greedy mortal wound junkies. Alternatively: (Ravens benefiting the Norse look Dispossessed are rocking) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaric83 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hello fellow Dawi! With the coming of AoS v2, and Ironbreakers as battlelines, i'm finally coming to collect Warhammer miniatures seriously. Been a long-time fan of lore, rpgs, videogames and such, though. I heard mobility is a big thing in Age of Sigmar. Is it true ? Or is the following list going to be fun to play ? => Leaders (1) Warden King [120pts] (3) Rune Lords (300pts] Battleline (30) Ironbreakers [360pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] Other units (20) Irondrakes [360pts] (10) Irondrakes [180pts] Artillery (allies) (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] Thanks for your answers ! Looking forward to joining the community :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Alaric83 said: Hello fellow Dawi! With the coming of AoS v2, and Ironbreakers as battlelines, i'm finally coming to collect Warhammer miniatures seriously. Been a long-time fan of lore, rpgs, videogames and such, though. I heard mobility is a big thing in Age of Sigmar. Is it true ? Or is the following list going to be fun to play ? => Leaders (1) Warden King [120pts] (3) Rune Lords (300pts] Battleline (30) Ironbreakers [360pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] Other units (20) Irondrakes [360pts] (10) Irondrakes [180pts] Artillery (allies) (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] Thanks for your answers ! Looking forward to joining the community :-) Mobility is certainly something you need to be aware of to win matched play scenarios, but while Dwarfs are slow(er) they can still move enough as long as they dont stand still every turn and charge rather than just be charged. We also have the pick-axe artefact as a good option as additional movement shenanigans. 4 Ballista... Love it! I have 2 or 3 (i forget) lead Dwarf ballista im thinking of using as stand-ins ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Alaric83 said: Hello fellow Dawi! With the coming of AoS v2, and Ironbreakers as battlelines, i'm finally coming to collect Warhammer miniatures seriously. Been a long-time fan of lore, rpgs, videogames and such, though. I heard mobility is a big thing in Age of Sigmar. Is it true ? Or is the following list going to be fun to play ? => Leaders (1) Warden King [120pts] (3) Rune Lords (300pts] Battleline (30) Ironbreakers [360pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] (10) Ironbreakers [140pts] Other units (20) Irondrakes [360pts] (10) Irondrakes [180pts] Artillery (allies) (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] (1) Celestar Ballista (converted with Dawi engineers) [100pts] Thanks for your answers ! Looking forward to joining the community ? That's a very OLD style army! I like the 4 Ballista but i suggest to cut the 10 man unit of Irondrakes. With the new rules an units engaged in combat can only shoot at an enemy within 3".... if you add this to the warscroll limitation of the Irondrakes they can be terrible to handle, in a deepstrike or a deep charge/teleport situation. I would keep the 20 man units but add bodies to defend your heavy gunline! I can see the list crumble playing against some hard charging Ironjawz/BeastClaw raiders/Nurgle/Stormcast/Idoneth list. Maybe 30 Ironbrakers, 20 Ironbreakers and 20 Warriors ? More Duardin shield for your guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Furuzzolo said: That's a very OLD style army! I like the 4 Ballista but i suggest to cut the 10 man unit of Irondrakes. With the new rules an units engaged in combat can only shoot at an enemy within 3".... if you add this to the warscroll limitation of the Irondrakes they can be terrible to handle, in a deepstrike or a deep charge/teleport situation. I would keep the 20 man units but add bodies to defend your heavy gunline! I can see the list crumble playing against some hard charging Ironjawz/BeastClaw raiders/Nurgle/Stormcast/Idoneth list. Maybe 30 Ironbrakers, 20 Ironbreakers and 20 Warriors ? More Duardin shield for your guns! More shields is good, but if they have something hitting you hard enough to be taking out Ironbreakers then you probably want to be shooting at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hello everyone. I played Dwarfs in WHFB and for the past 10 years or so have only played with my buddies when we get together a couple of times a year. Now with AoS 2.0, I'm looking to return to the hobby. I always like to try different armies, and have stumbled across the Ironbark Wargrove in the Sylvaneth battletome which allows you to take 2 Duardin units as part of your army. I'm wondering which Dispossessed (or other Duardin... the different splits are hard to follow) units you think would be best in such a force. I'm currently leaning towards Ironbreakers and Irondrakes... which were two of my favorite units from before. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 For sure but 20 irondrakes have a 40 shot 3+ 3+ -2 (runelord) 1 damage. Assuming a rerolling 1 and a +1 to wound from the king the damage output is between 19 to 25 against a 4+ save. In my opinion you need shields to keep them save, not more shooting ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, dmorley21 said: Hello everyone. I played Dwarfs in WHFB and for the past 10 years or so have only played with my buddies when we get together a couple of times a year. Now with AoS 2.0, I'm looking to return to the hobby. I always like to try different armies, and have stumbled across the Ironbark Wargrove in the Sylvaneth battletome which allows you to take 2 Duardin units as part of your army. I'm wondering which Dispossessed (or other Duardin... the different splits are hard to follow) units you think would be best in such a force. I'm currently leaning towards Ironbreakers and Irondrakes... which were two of my favorite units from before. Thanks! I think straight-up Warriors can complement Sylvaneth quite nicely, and they are cheap on points for Matched Play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Double Misfire said: Sell the Vanguard-Raptors on at a profit to greedy mortal wound junkies. Alternatively: (Ravens benefiting the Norse look Dispossessed are rocking) Where are these birds from? And how many points do they cost now anyways? I'm seriously considering them for my army. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The are/were metal 40K models (I don't remember the name). I used one for my converted Knight-Venator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, smucreo said: Where are these birds from? And how many points do they cost now anyways? I'm seriously considering them for my army. Dark Eldar Razorwings and 50 points for 3 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Dark-Eldar-Razorwing-Flock 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 @Furuzzolo - did someone call for an anti magic endless spell that helps compensate for the Dispossessed's lack of long range options? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Double Misfire said: @Furuzzolo - did someone call for an anti magic endless spell that helps compensate for the Dispossessed's lack of long range options? ? Waaaaait a second. If i bring a STORMCAST ETERNAL WIZARD i can cast this nightmare? Edited June 27, 2018 by Furuzzolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smucreo Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Let's wait and see how many points it costs, but for now.... IT'S LOOKING GOOD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, smucreo said: Let's wait and see how many points it costs, but for now.... IT'S LOOKING GOOD ? Same as five Liberators. Worth it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrustaco Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Super disappointed with how Longbeards aren't mini Archaons. Thoughts on the Irondrakes changes? I'm definitely building my Ironbreaker/drake box as Irondrakes now for the 20 haha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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