BURF1 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Scythian said: I think the smaller, winged witch elf may just be a generic witch elf lord character. It seems that the larger model that was teased is the actual Morathi model. Your thoughts, folks. They're both Morathi. As for the discussion about the spear, it's pretty clear that the one in the Snake picture is quite a bit bigger than the on humanoid Morathi is holding, even though they're the same exact design AND the Morathi snake monster is coiling up a large scenic base while also being large centerpiece snake monster size. The only possible way that the humanoid Morathi could be the one holding that spear at that angle in the bigger picture is if GW deliberately set it up with like a pile of phonebooks to be tall enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 The level of snideness in this discussion is astounding. Won't you explain instead how a couple of teasers became a fact that everyone should agree upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Yokai said: The level of snideness in this discussion is astounding. Won't you explain instead how a couple of teasers became a fact that everyone should agree upon? I now really hope that they're two different characters so that certain arrogant know-it-alls get a delicious lesson in the difference between evidence and inference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Yokai said: The level of snideness in this discussion is astounding. Won't you explain instead how a couple of teasers became a fact that everyone should agree upon? 1. There is an old rumor about Morathi being two models - one in mortal aelf form, one in snake form 2. Lore snippets suggest that Morathi form was changed into similar to her tormentor (Slaanesh) 3. The part of the model we have seen has obviously the same pose holding a spear as "smaller witch aelf" model he have seen. 4. Morathi had a spear "Heartpiercer" (if I remeber correctly) as her named weapon - smaller model is holding a spear. Just add all those points and it's pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch of Izalith Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 If anyone is still not convinced this may interest you also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Bloodmaster said: wo different charaters for Jamie the Jasper, and Morathi in two forms for everyone else including GW. Bit harsh for @Jamie the Jasper who has said that he also assumes it to be true but points out that there has been no confirmation from GW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 People are doubting it's Morathi? See this is why Nagash is the best, because in the great necromancer there is no doubt to be had only certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Honest Wargamer Podcast ep: New Death Warscrolls and Daughters of Khaine Rob (formerly of Warhammer TV) in discussion about the teaser vid with the minis in response to 'is it Morathi' It's her, they're both her - I've seen the mini, she turns into a snake. (paraphased slightly but the gist is that both forms are her) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 42 minutes ago, Bananaman said: Honest Wargamer Podcast ep: New Death Warscrolls and Daughters of Khaine Rob (formerly of Warhammer TV) in discussion about the teaser vid with the minis in response to 'is it Morathi' It's her, they're both her - I've seen the mini, she turns into a snake. (paraphased slightly but the gist is that both forms are her) Surprised that he'd come out and say it explicitly just like that - presumably he's still subject to an NDA and risks incurring the wrath of the lawyers. Still, this is exactly the kind of credible first-hand evidence that I've been asking about, which everyone else in this thread seems reluctant to offer - so thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 He said in an earlier ep that his NDA has expired. He also said he wouldn't be spoiling stuff left and right though. I think he just got excited in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Twitch of Izalith said: If anyone is still not convinced this may interest you also Indeed, a lot of people like to be all smug and snide about their self-proclaimed facts. I thought we had that well established already, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Kramer said: Bit harsh for @Jamie the Jasper who has said that he also assumes it to be true but points out that there has been no confirmation from GW. Come on, guys, don't take insult were non was meant. It was just posted as a joke, don't get salty about it. And @Jamie the Jasper @yokai of cause there are no hard facts till the Sunday before pre-orders, but from all we have heard and seen, Morathi will return in two forms of models. If one simply compares the pros and cons it is the most likely scenario right now. And if false, be it so, who really cares as long as we still get to nice looking models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bloodmaster said: ****** it guys, don't take insult were non was meant. It was just posted as a joke, don't get salty about it. And @Jamie the Jasper @yokai of cause there are no hard facts till the Sunday before pre-orders, but from all we have heard and seen, Morathi will return in two forms of models. If one simply compares the pros and cons it is the most likely scenario right now. And if false, be it so, who really cares as long as we still get to nice looking models! To be honest, I don't care. It just seemed really odd to me that people were talking about this as if it was accepted truth (and being a bit obnoxious about it in some cases) when I follow this stuff pretty closely and while the idea seemed very plausible, likely even, I still hadn't seen any evidence that would give me the confidence to state it as fact. So then when people got on their high horses, apparently with no more information than I have, it did bug me a bit. I think people should be a bit more circumspect when answering queries that they can't possibly have definitive answers to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scythian Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Morathi, not Morathi, Pamela Anderson for all I care. I just want my Daughters of Khaine soon! As for some of the responses, I asked for them. Positive, negative, or abusive, lol. Guess what, no one will care on DoK release day. Believe me, I won’t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellalugosi Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 i more of less just assumed from just piecing everything together. rumour exploration and passing word aside, its was just my very own thoughts from what theyve shown us that made me think it was morathi. ive been wrong before as i thought that the voice speaking to elias was neferata but there were only a few context clues to go off of that. i think it was just a lot easier to assume it is morathi now since there are so many pieces of info that fit. i see room to doubt but i feel like at this point its kind of like doubting that people eat breakfast in the mortal realms. sure theres no indication they do or dont, but i can confidently assume they do. either way, its always good to have these kinds of discussions! always tells us that there is so much to talk about in the mortal realms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On a side note, does anyone else enjoy the absurd 6-pronged headdress of probably-human-form-Morathi-as-confirmed-by-some-guy-quoting-an-ex-GW-employee-speaking-on-a-podcast as much as I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 13 hours ago, Bloodmaster said: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence :-P Nor is it evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valenswift Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 20 hours ago, Killax said: In other news... water might also not be wet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, valenswift said: [video] Hahaha. I love this stuff! I also still wonder if Duncan and the video team where hitting the vapes incredibly hard for this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch of Izalith Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Does anyone remember that comedy sketch about how it would be funny if more food was named along the lines of "I can't believe its not butter"? "Beans? your're kidding!" and "Bollox these are pineapple chunks!" were my favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Evidence! Actually slightly disappointed by how similar she looks to her other form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch of Izalith Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Lol its almost like GW have been reading this thread... Don't be dissapointed @Chikout I think the model will be incredible. Also its kinda important that it still looks like Morathi really - not some random snake monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chikout said: Evidence! Actually slightly disappointed by how similar she looks to her other form. Nonono, that clearly is something else - a tyranid-SoB hybrid, GW what have you done .... Ok, al jokes aside, its realy nice to see what they've in play and the humour the show again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 13.2.2018 at 11:35 AM, Twitch of Izalith said: This feels like common knowledge by now. I'm surprised some people still have doubts. There's a very large difference between "common knowledge" and "the accepted rumour". I, for one, have doubts, because from a games theory and design perspective, it's a terrible idea to have the two models represent the same character on tabletop. In a game where character sniping is one of the largest weaknesses of competitive play, the idea that you might never even put your €100 model on the table because she never ascends (because she's DEAD) is terrible, terrible design, and a surefire way to sell less models. Yes, there are absolutely visible similarities. Yes, I'll be the first to eat crow if they turn out to be the same (and booooooy, do they need a good, clever ruleset to back up an idiotic design idea like that to make it work). Doing something new for the sake of something new isn't innovative and progressive, and as a longstanding Har Ganeth-player, I genuinely fear the possibility of the release I've anticipated the most since AoS was released to be sullied by oxenfeces gimmicks. If there are in fact two Morathis and no generic character option, I fear the army is going to be suffering from the get-go. I really hope I'm wrong. This whole thing just reeks of terrible decision making at the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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