AthlorianStoners Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I was having a hard time thinking of new factions for Destruction. The three we have are all quite cool, but any new release based on existing units may feel like they tread on similar ground to the established factions. The few that I have got are: Moonclan Grots Spiderfang Grots Gutbusters I can see those three perhaps getting fleshed out further, though the Gutbusters is a 50/50 pick for me as they do seem limited in what can be done with them. I could see them becoming more shooty, to differentiate them more from the BCR. That would give them a unique place in the GA. Spiderfang have a lot of room to evolve in my opinion. If you added Grot Scutlings to the faction, you would only need one or two new units to create a decent sized faction. Perhaps some larger, elite cavalry, a new hero and a new battleline unit. That would create a nice, well rounded faction. Moonclan have many different ways they could go, and I feel they are the most likely of these three to happen soon. All they really need is a bit of power to them. To that end, I think a plastic behemoth Squig and some more powerful Squig cavalry would be greatly appreciated. Outside of these three though, I don't see what else can be added. A few ideas I had were: Sky Titans: A return of the Giants of old. Make them elementals that channel the power of nature, similar to the titans in God of War, only with the appearance of Gargants. This would obviously be a low model count army, but I think it could be quite a sight. You could give them human or Grot followers that channel their leaders element. Human destruction force: Perhaps a race of desert dwellers, that scavenge and destroy other civilisations to survive. Insect based race: A cool option, they would be similar to the Tyranids in that they exist to consume and propagate. COuld go many different directions with this. Anyway, those are my thoughts, interested to see what others have come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Moonclan have pretty much all they need really. Fixing the squig hoppers would be the easiest solution - never seen them used as they suck so bad. Fix their hero too. They could benefit from some sort of mounted hero on a monster as their generals are all squishy. Spiderfang are also easily fixed as you suggest. Some sort of tanky elite spiders would fill a gap nicely. Also make use of their web theme somehow, eg cc abilities that slow enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwface Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Fishmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AthlorianStoners Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Sheriff said: Moonclan have pretty much all they need really. Fixing the squig hoppers would be the easiest solution - never seen them used as they suck so bad. Fix their hero too. They could benefit from some sort of mounted hero on a monster as their generals are all squishy. Spiderfang are also easily fixed as you suggest. Some sort of tanky elite spiders would fill a gap nicely. Also make use of their web theme somehow, eg cc abilities that slow enemies. Yeah I'm somewhat unfamiliar with Moonclan. From what I know they have infantry and specialist units covered, I figured a Behemouth Squid, that can be taken as a mount for a hero, generic grots or just by itself would fill what holes I do know of. Spiderfangs I see a lot of potential for and hope they develop them further. 1 hour ago, Screwface said: Fishmen That would be awesome! How do you envision them? 1 hour ago, Tailessine said: Move Darkoath to Destruction? Thats a neat idea, though the two new models still have their Chaos keywords. A faction similar to Darkoath would be welcomed for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 One other thing moonclan could use is archers. Better ones. Nobody uses the bow option on the grots cos they suck. Maybe give them fire arrows or something, would fit their new lore as pyromaniacs. Speaking of which get the giant squig to drag along some sort of fiery thing that burns whatever it crosses over. Oh and let it bash through enemy units or knock them back or sideways; something that big should not be stopped by an elf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cvaldor Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Goblin sky pirates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Moonclan tome without new models, and Scuttlers as the new faction. Maybe even a grot tome that includes several factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, Sheriff said: One other thing moonclan could use is archers. Better ones. Nobody uses the bow option on the grots cos they suck. Maybe give them fire arrows or something, would fit their new lore as pyromaniacs. Speaking of which get the giant squig to drag along some sort of fiery thing that burns whatever it crosses over. Oh and let it bash through enemy units or knock them back or sideways; something that big should not be stopped by an elf. Just change it so that their +1 to wound from numbers is on all damage they deal same as gitmob grots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Tailessine said: Move Darkoath to Destruction? I would love to see a faction Barbarian humans in GA Destruction, but apparently all the human barbarians have to worship chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warboss Gorbolg Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I definitely think that we will get some Grots soon, but which I have no idea. Moonclan: Good IP already for GW but has a decent amount of finecast to replace. I won't really buy into Moonclan until the finecast squigs are replaced (all types). All heroes are finecast as well. I think ultimately that Moonclan will be one of anchor factions of Destruction as it has always been popular and distinct for GW. Spiderfang: existing line of models are great but obviously needs to be expanded. It would be cool if Spiderfang remains all mounted as it expands. Gitmob: I think these are abandoned and never updated. Existing plastics look their age and then some. Lots of finecast in the cooler parts of the faction, such as war machines. Really there is little worth saving in Gitmob. Instead of updated Gitmob I'm thinking that we will get an all new grot faction that includes some new plastic war machines. Some higher tech Grots would be cool in general and would be a good contrast to the other Grot factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanaut Admiral Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Cvaldor said: Goblin sky pirates... Absolutely. With them mentioned in both the Kharadron Battletome and the novel Overlords Of The Iron Dragon, Grotbag Scuttlers need to be a thing! However, I think the Moonclan and Spiderfang factions deserve work first. As Warboss Gorbolg said, I think Gitmob Grots ought to be quietly put on the shelf and replaced with the Scutters. That would leave us with three very distinctive goblin armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzai Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Battle Tome Maneaters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, Warboss Gorbolg said: All heroes are finecast as well. Well there will be a new plastic Moonclan hero very soon(and technically they're not all finecast, some are metal...). Being that they're one of the more complete destruction factions and that they didn't get anything in the GHB and now the new Malign Portents champion, I'm cautiously optimistic that the Moonclan will get something this year. I too am hoping for plastic squigs and won't be buying any squigs for a while(except for the Mangler Squig, I don't see him getting replaced anytime soon). I was on the fence between building out my handful of goblins and and squigs into a Moonclan army or mixed destruction(I already have some trolls, but they can ally into the Moonclan army too), but no GHB2017 stuff and new hero has me leaning more toward Moonclan, but I'll definitely be waiting to see what happens before buying too much. At most I'll get the Mangler Squig and fill out one whole unit of grots to 60, something I would do for either army plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: That would leave us with three very distinctive goblin armies. I promised myself I'd only ever have 1 army but i will have 3 if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Will be interesting to see if the character is useful to allies in. Hopefully it also signals that there's grot line revamp coming. Not sure how I would feel about the loss of the Gitmob, I really like the rabble esque feel over the moonclan. Every good orruk clan needs a large mob of useless grots following them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I guess they're going very much down the underground mushroom theme for the 'clan, then will go for a sky theme for the scuttlers. Maybe the spiderfang will be the surface grots, perhaps keeping the woodland theme? I'm sure they'll stick with the artwork concepts and make flying spiderfang daddylonglegs models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pannben Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Grotscutlings from silvertower feals like a nobrainer, update the warscroll with the spiderfanggrots keyword and maybe some strength in numbers rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I've decided to make a moonclan army consisting only of small infantry models, for easy transport to usa. So this new shaman is ideal. It will compliment 12 fanatics nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge_Opener Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I'd imagine the next one will be the grot pirates mentioned in the skydwarfs book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meet.the.doctor Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 After seeing the new MP champion I am sure new book is coming for Moonclan. They already have all they need modelswise, they just need some warscroll and rules tweaking. And moonclan magic mushroom based. That will be awesome! The behemoth is there (Collosal Squig), artillery is there (Gobba - though only 18"). They just need to make tons of synergies between units (maybe using multiple command abbilities on ****** heroes, would make them more useful). Fanatic launcher would be quite cool. 50" range. Something strongly OP so we could chew shiny new factions and bring back Destruction to top of the ladderboards again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Dogs of War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanaut Admiral Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 The Grot Scuttlings, are they spiderfang or moon clan? They’re arachnid like of course, but they have moonclan like hoods so I honestly can’t tell. The moonclan are very nearly there model wise. They would just need updated heroes and squigs in plastic with tweaked warscrolls to make a good battletome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: The Grot Scuttlings, are they spiderfang or moon clan? They’re arachnid like of course, but they have moonclan like hoods so I honestly can’t tell. The moonclan are very nearly there model wise. They would just need updated heroes and squigs in plastic with tweaked warscrolls to make a good battletome. I'm hoping the scuttlings are the bridge used to make a united faction out of Moonclan and Spiderfang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangod Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 2017-12-25 at 11:59 AM, Sheriff said: I guess they're going very much down the underground mushroom theme for the 'clan, then will go for a sky theme for the scuttlers. Maybe the spiderfang will be the surface grots, perhaps keeping the woodland theme? I'm sure they'll stick with the artwork concepts and make flying spiderfang daddylonglegs models. Maybe we'll get a faction of 'shroomified gobbos? We're getting the Fungoid Cave-Shaman soon(?), maybe we'll get an entire faction of Fungoid goblins later, in various states of 'shroomyness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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