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Has anyone else noticed inconsistent corner rounding on their cards?  I just sorted through the cards from the orks and undead. Once they were placed in a stack, I noticed that the corners on some cards are much more rounded than on others. The difference is actually noticeable once you realize it. I wonder if this could be a concern for non-sleeved decks in competitive play. 

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Yep the new cards are less damaged (QC issue with Core Set) but have different cuts and colours for sure, your example is the same for me.

Tip: Don't play without sleeves. Not only because of colours not matching up but because of other things like scuffs and damages not matching up either. In game it isn't a huge issue because every card can only be played once and due to the free mulligan rule you will see all cards you want to anyway. For asthetical reasons however it isn't cool to see the differece ;) 

If you don't like the Games Workshop sleeves be aware that Ultra Pro, Fantasy Flight Games and Dragon Shield (Arcane Tinmen) all provide other options who work on all these cards and look awesome aswell. 

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That would him me out. I already bought the materials needed to play, but before I'm allowed to play in some event I gotta buy accessories that are in no way required for the game to work right?

That's an event I would skip.

Who says you can't mark your sleeves, too?

It's a needless "requirement."

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I use clear sleeves I don't like opaque sleeves. If a tournament enforces that I would slip some card that fits inside or a piece of paper or something to cover it up, I'm not going to end up buying different sleeves bc of tournament enforcements.

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All choices, I dont see why you wouldnt resleeve unless your purposefully trying to thake an advantage here.

If you do that you wouldnt be welcome at the tournament anyway. Its up to the player to bring unmarked cards and sleeves.
Dont want to follow up on that then Id likely dont want to play anyway.

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My point remains that if you forcefully want to make use of the situation we are in and it leads you to a technical advantage your also purposefully not trying to prefent card marking.

The thing is, yes it's a pitty Games Workshop wasn't able to colour check the production line and apperently worked with dulling cuts for the corners of the cards. It is their task to do the quality controls over this.

Opaque sleeves stop this issue and range from $/€5 to $/€10. If you arn't willing to spend that money on a game that you have spend $/€80+ on to prefent any advantage from occuring I'd simply not play that player.

Other cardgames serve the same line of thought. If you want to play sleeveless or with clear sleeves you better ensure all your card backs and corners are the exact same. If they arn't your working with marked cards. It doesn't matter who marked them. 

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4 minutes ago, Xasz said:

I haven't picked up the new sets yet.

Is the quality better or worse compared to the base game?

Different.

There are examples of them being cut and coloured the same way as the Core set and there are examples where they are cut and coloured in a different way as the Core set.

The way the smaller boxes package the cards though means they are much less damaged as the cards are in the regular Core set where someone smart put hard plastic sprues smack on top of them and have the decks float in the box ;) 

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I agree that while it makes sense if I have used or worn cards it doesn't make sense at all when the cards come bad from the factory to start with. I don't play with marked cards, is that I just bought 500 clear sleeves and I just found that I have to resleeve the 30 I play with (meaning more worn by doing it) or just buy another set of 500 opaque cards to cover all the cards.

In my case if the colour and corners are different I will contact GW to see if there is a solution.

I don't want to play with marked cards at all, is just that it sucks balls that I'm forced to use a product I don't like (opaque sleeves) because GW screwed his QC. A different thing is if the card is in bad state because is my fault.

Regards.

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5 minutes ago, Wallack said:

I don't want to play with marked cards at all, is just that it sucks balls that I'm forced to use a product I don't like (opaque sleeves) because GW screwed his QC. A different thing is if the card is in bad state because is my fault.

Regards.

Agreed, but the thing is nobody is claiming it's your fault. The thing with card markings is that it could be anyone's fault. Even an opponent ****** with your cards. However it's up to any player to at least do their best in being aware of how to prevent this. The reason why there are more non-opeque cards for sale as there are opeque has to do with every cardgame having their differences in card quality. 

Some Magic cards are so old the backs are colourshifted but still are legal to play, Pokemon cards have foil cards who are thicker and have a more round card back, Shadespire now has cards with different cuts and different coloured card backs. What is key to be aware of is that most of your cards can be in opeque sleeves. Unless you planned to play a 470 card deck I would just pick up 2x 50 different coloured non-opeque card sleeves so you can play the game at a tournament, this will set you back at most $/€10 and solves the issue completely.

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Lastly, because we have 3 different decks effectively the card cuts or discolouration wouldn't even be an issue the moment we'd be talking about the same type of cards. E.g. if all Objective cards are cut in a different way as Power cards this wouldn't be an issue, but as we see, there are Objectiev and Power cards cut in different sizes and printed with different card back colours.

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When I meant my fault I meant that this case is clearly a GW fault. If they had all the same back and rounded corners I would be perfectly fine with clear sleeves 99% of the time. If I have to buy two sets of opaque I have to start resleeving everytime I play a different deck (something we do very often at home) making the main use of sleeves (having them there and protecting them) a bit pointless if I have to start resleeving.

Is not the money, it never was the money, I'm a lucky guy and have 0 problems with money, is the fact that I'm forced to do something I hate, which is using opaque cards, is just that, I love the artwork on the back of the cards and now I see that I have to cover it for example, is just that.

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It's a shame there are inconsistencies in colour.  I've recently purchased 100 clear dragon shield sleeves, but I think I'll now also purchase a pack of the Sepulchral Guard sleeves and use the 20 power/ploy and 12 objective sleeves for my games.  It means I'll have to re-sleeve if and when I end up changing my deck up, but I don't mind too much. 

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Those that will buy opaque cards what is your plan?

I was looking at getting some black for ploys and maybe orange for objectives? maybe gray? not sure tho, I want to have everything sleeved and not have to resleeve everytime. I would buy a lot of the themed cards to have all the objective and ploys with the same background because, I have to admit, they look really much better than a normal black opaque sleeve, however I heard they are tight fit and I like the card to have a bit of room just in case.

Another option is to have them all in black sleeves and no distinction of objective and ploy but I think that's worse as I will be discarding objectives and is easier for me to differentiate.

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I use the Red and Bronze (power and objective) Dragonshield sleeves for my Bloodreavers.
I use the Blue and Gold Dragonshield sleeves for my Stormcast.
I use the Green and Silver Dragonshield sleeves for my Orks.
I use the Purple and Black Dragonshields for my Undead.

I cannot play 4 decks at the same time so frankly speaking it's close to irrelevant which thematic colour I like for which deck :) You pick one Warband beforehand, hand in a decklist and go for it. Resleeving 32 cards is not ever an issue to me. It thakes like up to 3 minutes, likely less.

So far I will play Bloodreavers despite my games not showing I should play them at all.

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I know resleeving is not an issue but I've heard the GW sleeves are a bit too tight? I would go for Stormcast and something else, like Khorne maybe, I love the looks of the sleeves but I'm afraid that is too tight.

Are you from Europe by any chance? just to know where to get those sleeves because I only see US sites when searching for it.

P:S: Gold dragonshields? are they shiny or just yellow/brown to look like gold? really curious.

EDIT: just saw a video and they look really cool the golden ones.

Not really sure what to do, I'm torn!! I also want to have a duplicate of the neutral cards from the expansions but thats going to be hard unless I do some prints to use at home. Damn!

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I would just pick two colours :) I think the metallic sleeves are the best for Objectives because they obtain Glory and that's reflected in a token with a coin printed on them. It just fits visually. For the main power cards you can really pick whatever colour you fancy. If you like Stormcast Id go for a colour that matches their paint scheme. 

As for where to get Dragonshield sleeves, really at the same stores where they sell Magic the Gathering and the like. Often specialist stores that also sell Warhammer. Here in the Netheralnds they are super common. If they sell cardgames they usually have it. There is only one complaint some make about them and that's about cards sticking together when your deck is moist. But in reality this can easily be prevented by picking up the quantity of cards you want first, place them face down and 'check' if you didn't accedentily draw more. Which sounds a lot but is done in a matter of seconds.

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Thanks, I live in a small city in Ireland with only one small store and not sure if they have I've asked them. I normally buy everything on the internet.

I have the stormcasts in the default colour as I love yellow/gold and will post pics once I make a good stand for them (I also use clear bases and they look superb with them) but I'm so torn now because yeah, the matte or opaque sleeves look good but losing the art ... damn at least I have someone to play with at home x)

Thanks.

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